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nathani has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) RandalSchwartz: Ugh, just heard another podcast say “backslash” for a character in a URL. #petpeeve ***: nathani has joined #arpnetworks mike-bur1: That's confusing at best! RandalSchwartz: yeah, and sadly, it can sorta work in windows machines
so people get broken confirmation that there's no problem. BryceBot: That's what she said!! RandalSchwartz: ahh, I missed BryceBot! mike-bur1: I just read the SO answer about that -- apparently Chrome re-writes to / in URLs, for IE compatibility. That's wild. RandalSchwartz: ok, that's even scarier JC_Denton: well, how do you separate out people who say whack-whack for \uncpath vs. a singular "whack" for /option (e.g., cmd /c)
windows be crazy? RandalSchwartz: I try not to think about windows users in general mike-bur1: http://gemal.dk/mozilla/slashy.html - in Chrome the "this link" renders with the / even though the HTML has .
That's Chrome on GNU. ***: mike-bur1 is now known as mike-burns RandalSchwartz: GNU? You mean Linux? mike-burns: Sure. RandalSchwartz: or is there already an implementation of Hurd? mike-burns: Ha there is but I did mean GNU/systemd/Linux. RandalSchwartz: I've partied with Linus. I've partied with RMS. Because of that, I'll never say "GNU/Linux" because it's just RMS trying to ride the coat-tails of what Linus did.
Linus actually put me in a headlock the day I said "what do you think about RMS trying to relabel your work as GNU/Linux?" :) JC_Denton: iirc, there's a Hurd out there somewhere that runs
celebrity cage match between the two would be interesting RandalSchwartz: no, Linus would just concede publicly. mike-burns: I mostly deal with the userland -- I don't like Linux so I don't really do kernel hacking -- and I have to look up GNU stuff all the time because I've only memorized BSD commands. So it's GNU to me. RandalSchwartz: it's only privately that he's a bit more insistant JC_Denton: i think they all, in their own way, have some pioneering accomplishments RandalSchwartz: Indeed. I was on a cruise where Maddog moderated a shouting match between Eric Raymond and RMS, saying "we needed BOTH of you!"
that was a very interesting experience. JC_Denton: i'd be curious what your opinion on Potterware is, RandalSchwartz RandalSchwartz: and I believe he was correct. Eric brought the notion of "open source" to the world. Richard brought the notion of "the four freedoms".
I think Open Source is ultimately winnning, and card-carrying FSF members are on the decline
need to google Potterware
never heard of it mike-burns: systemd RandalSchwartz: ... http://www.potterware.com
something about clay from Malta? JC_Denton: systemd, firewalld, crond, logind ... borgd mike-burns: PulseAudio. JC_Denton: probably the easiest way to explain it, with a gif: https://i.warosu.org/data/g/img/0444/21/1411970433039.gif RandalSchwartz: still waiting to get him on FLOSS Weekly. :)
he's promised twice now, but not responded in email JC_Denton: who, Pottering? RandalSchwartz: yeah
I met him in person at a conference last year. JC_Denton: i just wonder what their goals are mike-burns: We may find out in a future FLOSS Weekly! RandalSchwartz: heh
only if he responds to my email :) ***: brycec-M has joined #arpnetworks brycec-M: s/Potter/Poetter/ BryceBot: <JC_Denton> who, Poettering? brycec-M: @ud poetterware BryceBot: poetterware: Poetterware is a type of software mostly found on Linux systems, for example systemd, pulseaudio, policykit, consolekit, xdg-open, colord and more. -- This software generally works very well and solves really complicated problems, but if it doesn't behave the way it should, you will have a hard time debugging the issue (e.g. via dbus), working around it (by quick hacks) or use alternative software. It may be
written by Lennart Poettering or the freedesktop foundation or other participants in the ecosystem. <Sep 19, 2017> Example: "You're using Gentoo Linux with systemd? Yes, although it's poetterware it works very well for me." brycec-M: (It helps if you spell it correctly 😉) ***: qbit[m] has joined #arpnetworks
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