mercutio: brycec: sct04 will probably be soon, but hasn't been scheduled yet. microcode patches were recalled, but they're not as good as the OS patches..
there's many compound issues. and ubuntu just had a security issue with one of their patches, i think for ubuntu 17.10?
there's still nothing from openbsd and freebsd afaik
(who only found out about it when we did) brycec: Ah thanks for info mercutio ***: dj_goku has joined #arpnetworks
ziyourenxiang has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) mordac: mercutio: kvr09 mercutio: mordac: that was scheduled for the 26th, last friday
so it shouldn't have gone done on monday
and an email should have reached you. ***: ziyourenxiang has joined #arpnetworks
michael_p has joined #arpnetworks michael_p: hi BryceBot: hi michael_p: i am looking at mineing coins on a vps is that possable mike-burns: What kind of resource usage are we talking? In short, do anything legal so long as it doesn't affect others on the same host. michael_p: mike hell no
not into that
also i need windows mike-burns: Not sure if Arp provides Windows out of the box, but the VPS can boot any ISO you give it.
http://support.arpnetworks.com/kb/dedicated-servers/iso-library JC_Denton: i feel like you'd mine so few, it wouldn't be cost effective michael_p: i have a few pools one is bitclub network i have to wait tonight see what the output is
my time
also i am look at adding more to hasflare JC_Denton: it's your money michael_p: i have two option vps or a dedicated
jc what do you think JC_Denton: a vps is a shared resource, a dedicated system is exactly that - dedicated michael_p: i cant do it from home cause of the cost of electric JC_Denton: i believe arp also does colo, if you have existing hardware michael_p: i am looking at that
i want to start small
and build it up mercutio: cpu mining isn't really profitable JC_Denton: i'd do a little research first
you're going to spend a lot more than you'll ever get out mercutio: get a amd vegas or nvidia 10xx if you want high hash power for low watts michael_p: iam looking at gpu
i want get something de3cent that will mine every one mercutio: if you get 6 amd vegas or something i think you can make semi-decent money
ah go nvidia then
maybe 6 1070tis? michael_p: what about 6 760s mercutio: nah 760 isn't power efficient
even the 970s aren't good michael_p: also price wise nvida or amd mercutio: amd aren't good for many coins
they're generally good for memory bandwidth ones JC_Denton: i still enjoy my 2x980 Ti setup for games. eventually i'll do an upgrade, but the 980->1080 transition isn't that amazing/$ mercutio: for games 9xx is fine michael_p: wait until the price comes down mercutio: and games 1080ti is good, but for mining the 1070ti are better value JC_Denton: i wish decent FPS 4k games were a reality mercutio: basically cos of memory bandwith that deosn't matter so much in games
err memory latency, even
mining actually put video card cost way up JC_Denton: i feel like 4K is at that point we were at 10-15 years ago where you needed the Maximum PC "dream machine" to push 4K at non-jittery frame rates mercutio: prices are significantly higher now than they were 6 months ago even
i have a nvidia 1070, and i find 1440p at 96hz fine
but 1440p to 4k is quite the jump, and 4k at > 60 hz is another jump again
i prefer 96 hz 1440p than 4k 60hz thoguh
i reckon hdr will help games more than 4k JC_Denton: i'm reasonably happy with 1080p ultra quality gaming michael_p: the parts would need to be built there mercutio: i do medium quality with 1440p
michael: how much does power cost where you are?
arp isn't in some magic place where power is cheap JC_Denton: call me crazy, but i recently replayed the first Max Payne at 4K/ultra and loved it michael_p: last bill 280.00 aud every 3 moths mercutio: have you ever looked back at old games, and they look a lot worse than you remember?
how much c/kwh though?
australia is about 30c aud per kwh i think
plus the air conditioning cost JC_Denton: mercutio: dear god, yes. some are so ugly they're unplayable. mercutio: JC_Denton: and yet they were fine at the time :) JC_Denton: oh, yes mercutio: actually sometimes games look better on crt too JC_Denton: yet some, like Quake and Duke are still fun mercutio: i always thought duek was ugly
and i wasn't really fan of quake 1
and quake 3 was always ugly
quake 1 looked too sharp to me
i prefered doom 2 graphics
https://youtu.be/BmtkcNfjZFE BryceBot: YouTube video: "Doom 2 (1994)" by Stormspirit 86 mercutio: so soft :) BryceBot: That's what she said!! mercutio: hmm it's rather angular, i thinmk it's just hte way the walls look diffuse JC_Denton: quake 2 > quake 1 > quake 4 > quake 3
imo
i dunno, i liked duke more than quake mercutio: i didn't know there was a quake 4 JC_Denton: and then ut99 > quake 3 mercutio: i liked blood better than duke JC_Denton: heh
blood was fun
i can't find my copy for the life of me
i think it's still on GOG, though mercutio: i used to play blood on modem a lot
playing with init strings to disable compression, eerror correction, and connect at 9600 bps iirc JC_Denton: original starcraft and wc ii over dialup ftw mercutio: hah i played original starcraft on this ipx internet thingy
had to play in evening when ping was lower ;)
oh actually maybe it was sc2
wc2 michael_p: dose your servers are they gpu based
i may get a vds
as long i can fine someone to set it up mike-burns: Unrelated to VPSes (I can highly recommend Arp) but related to mining: it's not a get-rich-quick scheme.
I hope you're doing this because you enjoy playing with the technology. michael_p: i am not into get rich schemes
just enough to pay off the vps and some from myself mike-burns: Well. Good luck. michael_p: mike are you good at setting up mike-burns: I am not going to help you lose money on mining coins, if that's what you're asking. michael_p: what is fi went dedicated staticsafe: you probably wouldn't break even BryceBot: That's what she said!! staticsafe: just saying mike-burns: Right. michael_p: any ideas then staticsafe: ideas for what? michael_p: minining coins mike-burns: If you enjoy the idea of the blockchain, the underlying proof-of-work (or alternative) technologies, exploring the privacy concerns and theories behind e.g. zerocoin, hashing functions -- then mining coins might be right for you.
If you enjoy making money, this isn't it. staticsafe: yeah go ask a financial advisor about investing into something more stable ***: michael_p has left "Leaving" JC_Denton: it really annoys the hell out of me how many people think they can "make it big" off of bitcoin and the like
~10 years ago, different story. today, heh, not so much. mike-burns: Right totally -- those who will make it big already have, and the rest of us won't, and that's OK. mercutio: i made money starting midway last year mike-burns. mike-burns: Big money? mercutio: of course now bitcoin is worth 10 or 11k instead of 20k
not really, .. but more than i expected to
last year bitcoin went up in value quite a lot... mike-burns: I made BTC money last week, but not enough to quit my job. mercutio: yeah it's not enough to quite my job, but more than enough to pay for power
much more useful in winter though :)
but i would have made better money buying bitcoin than mining :) mike-burns: Definitely. BryceBot: That's what she said!! mike-burns: I'll stand by my point: those who will make it big already have. mercutio: i was just surprised how much my r9 290 could make. and i caught the mining bug from there..
i thikn trading can make more money than mining
especially daytrading, if you had a large enough investment. mike-burns: Right -- it's a barely-regulated asset. Treat it like stocks. mercutio: although the market is kind of down atm which makes it harder to daytrade mike-burns: I buy in January and sell in December. mercutio: good idea erratic: adopt a paige today
mercutio: I was mining some keccak 256 ethereum hashlets on my r9 390
and I overclocked it a little
it was doing pretty good
I donno about a huge investment though
just a fun thing to play with
mercutio: you've seen this kinda stuff right https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIAAK96GT3081&ignorebbr=1&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleMKP-PC&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleMKP-PC-_-pla-_-Cases+%28Computer+Cases+-+ATX+Form%29-_-9SIAAK96GT3081&gclid=CjwKCAiA47DTBRAUEiwA4luU2cCXiMzd8X-v0LFIEDwN8iGH2Xeju2VqR3XvDxL3_bBWJO4m-KedVRoCzkoQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds
wait you're a day trader sorry my adhd
of course you have
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