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| mercutio | brycec: sct04 will probably be soon, but hasn't been scheduled yet. microcode patches were recalled, but they're not as good as the OS patches..
there's many compound issues. and ubuntu just had a security issue with one of their patches, i think for ubuntu 17.10? there's still nothing from openbsd and freebsd afaik (who only found out about it when we did) | [01:22] |
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| brycec | Ah thanks for info mercutio | [01:42] |
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| mordac | mercutio: kvr09 | [11:24] |
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| mercutio | mordac: that was scheduled for the 26th, last friday
so it shouldn't have gone done on monday and an email should have reached you. | [14:43] |
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| michael_p | hi | [16:55] |
| BryceBot | hi | [16:55] |
| michael_p | i am looking at mineing coins on a vps is that possable | [16:56] |
| mike-burns | What kind of resource usage are we talking? In short, do anything legal so long as it doesn't affect others on the same host. | [16:57] |
| michael_p | mike hell no
not into that also i need windows | [16:57] |
| mike-burns | Not sure if Arp provides Windows out of the box, but the VPS can boot any ISO you give it.
http://support.arpnetworks.com/kb/dedicated-servers/iso-library | [16:59] |
| JC_Denton | i feel like you'd mine so few, it wouldn't be cost effective | [17:05] |
| michael_p | i have a few pools one is bitclub network i have to wait tonight see what the output is
my time also i am look at adding more to hasflare | [17:08] |
| JC_Denton | it's your money | [17:15] |
| michael_p | i have two option vps or a dedicated
jc what do you think | [17:17] |
| JC_Denton | a vps is a shared resource, a dedicated system is exactly that - dedicated | [17:19] |
| michael_p | i cant do it from home cause of the cost of electric | [17:21] |
| JC_Denton | i believe arp also does colo, if you have existing hardware | [17:22] |
| michael_p | i am looking at that
i want to start small and build it up | [17:28] |
| mercutio | cpu mining isn't really profitable | [17:33] |
| JC_Denton | i'd do a little research first
you're going to spend a lot more than you'll ever get out | [17:33] |
| mercutio | get a amd vegas or nvidia 10xx if you want high hash power for low watts | [17:33] |
| michael_p | iam looking at gpu
i want get something de3cent that will mine every one | [17:34] |
| mercutio | if you get 6 amd vegas or something i think you can make semi-decent money
ah go nvidia then maybe 6 1070tis? | [17:34] |
| michael_p | what about 6 760s | [17:35] |
| mercutio | nah 760 isn't power efficient
even the 970s aren't good | [17:35] |
| michael_p | also price wise nvida or amd | [17:35] |
| mercutio | amd aren't good for many coins
they're generally good for memory bandwidth ones | [17:36] |
| JC_Denton | i still enjoy my 2x980 Ti setup for games. eventually i'll do an upgrade, but the 980->1080 transition isn't that amazing/$ | [17:36] |
| mercutio | for games 9xx is fine | [17:36] |
| michael_p | wait until the price comes down | [17:36] |
| mercutio | and games 1080ti is good, but for mining the 1070ti are better value | [17:36] |
| JC_Denton | i wish decent FPS 4k games were a reality | [17:36] |
| mercutio | basically cos of memory bandwith that deosn't matter so much in games
err memory latency, even mining actually put video card cost way up | [17:36] |
| JC_Denton | i feel like 4K is at that point we were at 10-15 years ago where you needed the Maximum PC "dream machine" to push 4K at non-jittery frame rates | [17:37] |
| mercutio | prices are significantly higher now than they were 6 months ago even
i have a nvidia 1070, and i find 1440p at 96hz fine but 1440p to 4k is quite the jump, and 4k at > 60 hz is another jump again i prefer 96 hz 1440p than 4k 60hz thoguh i reckon hdr will help games more than 4k | [17:37] |
| JC_Denton | i'm reasonably happy with 1080p ultra quality gaming | [17:40] |
| michael_p | the parts would need to be built there | [17:41] |
| mercutio | i do medium quality with 1440p
michael: how much does power cost where you are? arp isn't in some magic place where power is cheap | [17:41] |
| JC_Denton | call me crazy, but i recently replayed the first Max Payne at 4K/ultra and loved it | [17:42] |
| michael_p | last bill 280.00 aud every 3 moths | [17:42] |
| mercutio | have you ever looked back at old games, and they look a lot worse than you remember?
how much c/kwh though? australia is about 30c aud per kwh i think plus the air conditioning cost | [17:42] |
| JC_Denton | mercutio: dear god, yes. some are so ugly they're unplayable. | [17:43] |
| mercutio | JC_Denton: and yet they were fine at the time :) | [17:43] |
| JC_Denton | oh, yes | [17:43] |
| mercutio | actually sometimes games look better on crt too | [17:43] |
| JC_Denton | yet some, like Quake and Duke are still fun | [17:43] |
| mercutio | i always thought duek was ugly
and i wasn't really fan of quake 1 and quake 3 was always ugly quake 1 looked too sharp to me i prefered doom 2 graphics https://youtu.be/BmtkcNfjZFE | [17:44] |
| BryceBot | YouTube video: "Doom 2 (1994)" by Stormspirit 86 | [17:44] |
| mercutio | so soft :) | [17:44] |
| BryceBot | That's what she said!! | [17:44] |
| mercutio | hmm it's rather angular, i thinmk it's just hte way the walls look diffuse | [17:45] |
| JC_Denton | quake 2 > quake 1 > quake 4 > quake 3
imo i dunno, i liked duke more than quake | [17:46] |
| mercutio | i didn't know there was a quake 4 | [17:47] |
| JC_Denton | and then ut99 > quake 3 | [17:47] |
| mercutio | i liked blood better than duke | [17:47] |
| JC_Denton | heh
blood was fun i can't find my copy for the life of me i think it's still on GOG, though | [17:52] |
| mercutio | i used to play blood on modem a lot
playing with init strings to disable compression, eerror correction, and connect at 9600 bps iirc | [17:52] |
| JC_Denton | original starcraft and wc ii over dialup ftw | [17:53] |
| mercutio | hah i played original starcraft on this ipx internet thingy
had to play in evening when ping was lower ;) oh actually maybe it was sc2 wc2 | [17:53] |
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| michael_p | dose your servers are they gpu based | [18:28] |
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| i may get a vds
as long i can fine someone to set it up | [19:02] | |
| mike-burns | Unrelated to VPSes (I can highly recommend Arp) but related to mining: it's not a get-rich-quick scheme.
I hope you're doing this because you enjoy playing with the technology. | [19:10] |
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| michael_p | i am not into get rich schemes
just enough to pay off the vps and some from myself | [19:38] |
| mike-burns | Well. Good luck. | [19:39] |
| michael_p | mike are you good at setting up | [19:41] |
| mike-burns | I am not going to help you lose money on mining coins, if that's what you're asking. | [19:42] |
| michael_p | what is fi went dedicated | [19:43] |
| staticsafe | you probably wouldn't break even | [19:43] |
| BryceBot | That's what she said!! | [19:43] |
| staticsafe | just saying | [19:43] |
| mike-burns | Right. | [19:43] |
| michael_p | any ideas then | [19:44] |
| staticsafe | ideas for what? | [19:45] |
| michael_p | minining coins | [19:45] |
| mike-burns | If you enjoy the idea of the blockchain, the underlying proof-of-work (or alternative) technologies, exploring the privacy concerns and theories behind e.g. zerocoin, hashing functions -- then mining coins might be right for you.
If you enjoy making money, this isn't it. | [19:45] |
| staticsafe | yeah go ask a financial advisor about investing into something more stable | [19:47] |
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| JC_Denton | it really annoys the hell out of me how many people think they can "make it big" off of bitcoin and the like
~10 years ago, different story. today, heh, not so much. | [20:55] |
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| mike-burns | Right totally -- those who will make it big already have, and the rest of us won't, and that's OK. | [21:12] |
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| mercutio | i made money starting midway last year mike-burns. | [21:56] |
| mike-burns | Big money? | [21:56] |
| mercutio | of course now bitcoin is worth 10 or 11k instead of 20k
not really, .. but more than i expected to last year bitcoin went up in value quite a lot... | [21:56] |
| mike-burns | I made BTC money last week, but not enough to quit my job. | [21:57] |
| mercutio | yeah it's not enough to quite my job, but more than enough to pay for power
much more useful in winter though :) but i would have made better money buying bitcoin than mining :) | [21:57] |
| mike-burns | Definitely. | [21:58] |
| BryceBot | That's what she said!! | [21:58] |
| mike-burns | I'll stand by my point: those who will make it big already have. | [21:58] |
| mercutio | i was just surprised how much my r9 290 could make. and i caught the mining bug from there..
i thikn trading can make more money than mining especially daytrading, if you had a large enough investment. | [21:58] |
| mike-burns | Right -- it's a barely-regulated asset. Treat it like stocks. | [21:59] |
| mercutio | although the market is kind of down atm which makes it harder to daytrade | [21:59] |
| mike-burns | I buy in January and sell in December. | [21:59] |
| mercutio | good idea | [22:00] |
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| erratic | adopt a paige today
mercutio: I was mining some keccak 256 ethereum hashlets on my r9 390 and I overclocked it a little it was doing pretty good I donno about a huge investment though just a fun thing to play with mercutio: you've seen this kinda stuff right https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIAAK96GT3081&ignorebbr=1&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleMKP-PC&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleMKP-PC-_-pla-_-Cases+%28Computer+Cases+-+ATX+Form%29-_-9SIAAK96GT3081&gclid=CjwKCAiA47DTBRAUEiwA4luU2cCXiMzd8X-v0LFIEDwN8iGH2Xeju2VqR3XvDxL3_bBWJO4m-KedVRoCzkoQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds wait you're a day trader sorry my adhd of course you have meowlz | [23:52] |
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