[02:09] *** ziyourenxiang has joined #arpnetworks [03:14] *** sphex has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [03:21] *** sphex has joined #arpnetworks [06:25] *** sphex has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) [06:31] *** sphex has joined #arpnetworks [09:28] *** ziyourenxiang has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [13:02] *** incin has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [13:02] *** incin has joined #arpnetworks [16:39] anyone here use Slack? [16:40] I do, at work. [16:41] channel poll: any interest if we had a public Slack channel? We have a private one for ops'y stuff... I've been using Slack for a while for various other projects, but I'm not a power user [16:41] the main reason I like it is because notifications [16:42] weechat-android is good, but drains my battery, so I tend to leave it off [16:42] I wouldn't join a Slack group unless I had to. [16:44] roger that [16:45] But there's possibly a large group of people who feel that way about IRC and aren't even in here to voice that. [16:46] Can Slack be bridged with IRC? [16:46] there are slack/discord bots [16:46] so i suspect so [16:46] There's a weeslack plugin for weechat. [16:46] And there is an official IRC bridge that everyone tries for a bit. [16:47] oh? [16:47] did it work well? [16:47] how have you found using slack in a work context mike-burns ? [16:47] I like using Slack at work because there's a 0% chance I'll open it outside of work, which helps enforce a work/life balance. [16:47] haha [16:47] (I, uh, really dislike using Slack.) [16:48] haha [16:49] speaking of bots, a bot in here could be nice [16:49] BryceBot: o/ [16:49] \o [16:49] Maybe a bot that sends a notification to up_the_irons when someone says his nick -- this could help with his battery issue? [16:49] one that can kick that thing that comes in [16:50] sounds more like the job for a client script or possibly a bouncer? [16:51] Oh true. https://weechat.org/scripts/stable/tag/notify/ [16:52] there are a lot [16:52] push*.* seem to be the mobile device ones. [16:52] what is libnotify? [16:52] I think that's GONME? [16:52] GNOME [16:53] the mac notification thing seemed more popular [16:54] hmm pushsafer may be good? [16:55] I don't see their pricing. [16:55] that's what i'm trying to find :) [16:56] Same with Notify My Android. [16:56] 1000 additional API calls0.99 EUR (0.99 EUR / 1000 API Calls) [16:56] https://www.pushsafer.com/en/faq#answer2 [16:56] Aha nice sleuthing. [16:56] That's not bad. [16:56] yeah it's cheaper if you buy more [16:56] but seems reasonably affordable [16:57] i suspect that something free will have terrible mobile clients [16:57] it's funny how a fundamental functionality of the communications network has been monopolized, isn't it? [16:57] yeah actually there really should be something free that is good enough [16:57] Maybe Pushjet is free but you have to host it yourself? And I do know a good host ... [16:58] hehe :-) [16:58] More clients are under development; Web, Linux (GTK), Windows and OS X. [16:58] so it's android only atm [16:58] and i don't see an apple one [16:59] but it's bsd licensed.. [16:59] Maybe someone else has made an iOS one. [16:59] i don't use ios [16:59] Nor do I. [16:59] but it might hurt adoption a little [16:59] That's what she said!! [17:00] BryceBot: no [17:00] Oh, okay... I'm sorry. 'but it might hurt adoption a little' [17:00] I think on iOS you can't because apps just get terminated in the background when RAM is tight or something? [17:00] they even host the website on github [17:01] a bot to send notifications is an idea, but then the question is, *how* does that thing to do it? i'd like a push notification to my phone. but yeah, you guys are already looking at the push related services [17:01] I don't see a third-party iOS implementation on GH, either. Oh well. [17:01] up_the_irons: yeh this one is free even [17:01] up_the_irons: Android or iOS? [17:01] i'm still trying to figure out how to run the server... [17:01] mike-burns: android [17:01] the weechat side i think is easy [17:01] but this has multiple uses... [17:01] A+. [17:01] you could notify all kinds of things :) [17:02] mercutio: which one are you looking at? [17:02] pushjet [17:02] ah [17:02] https://github.com/Pushjet/Pushjet-Server-Api.git [17:02] think this is the server [17:03] But you might need the connectors and server-broker? [17:03] Very unclear how this fits. Maybe there are docs ... [17:03] hmm pushjet seems kinda cool [17:03] yeah i can't find good docs [17:03] is that using its own protocol, or just an interface to google's push service? [17:03] it uses GCM (google cloud messaging) [17:03] i wonder if this is too alpha [17:03] because then I think you have to pay google for access? [17:03] seems a little alpha yeah [17:04] I thought GCM is free. [17:04] is it? [17:04] * mike-burns shrugs [17:04] * fIorz shrugs, too [17:04] https://onesignal.com/ [17:04] is this free? [17:04] > Latest commit 7ddb7df on Oct 21, 2016 [17:05] yaeh i think it's not stable enough [17:05] err established enough [17:05] I don't understand why OneSignal is "100% Free". [17:05] support contracts [17:05] for heavy users i think [17:05] https://techcrunch.com/2017/08/15/onesignal-series-a/ [17:05] OK that makes sense. [17:06] it’s free for customers if they’re willing to share their interest and transaction data with large brands and advertisers, who can then use that data for better targeting. From a privacy perspective, Deglin said it’s similar to sharing user data with an ad network. [17:06] oh. [17:06] another option would be just use SMS? :-) [17:06] you still need sms gateway [17:06] and then you pay per sms [17:06] Email->SMS [17:07] well, sure, it's not free, but at least it's not a monopoly [17:07] idk, the current tech should allow to message without sms [17:07] also i reckon it's better if can respond too :) [17:08] He just needs to know that he should open weechat-android. [17:08] This is what Yo is for! [17:08] http://www.justyo.co/ [17:08] https://airnotifier.github.io/ [17:08] and in principle, you only need a mobile phone, in which case you in principle even could support responses via SMS ;-) [17:08] am i missing something with this? [17:09] Anyway, many phone providers offer email->SMS gateways, e.g. 5551234567@txt.att.net sends a text message. [17:09] mercutio: that needs an app on the other end. [17:09] (well, and a SIM, obviously) [17:09] oh so it doesn't provide apps? [17:10] Right yeah, it's used by app developers. [17:10] this is way harder than i thought it'd be :) [17:11] onesignal looked promising, but harvesting user data sounds Evil (TM) [17:11] yeah in theory i could just do email to SMS but it just feels crude [17:11] If you're willing to spend 1EUR/mo, you could try the Pushsafer weechat plugin. [17:12] i recon we've spent more than 1EU/mo just talking about this [17:12] Ha! [17:12] pushsafer was free for the first API calls too [17:37] well pushsafer looked interesting but i can't for the life of me figure out how to create a private key [17:37] it just shows blank where it should be [17:38] their built in notifier has the same issue :) [17:55] *** jpalmer has quit IRC (*.net *.split) [17:55] *** jpalmer has joined #arpnetworks [19:30] *** toddf has quit IRC (*.net *.split) [19:30] *** mhoran has quit IRC (*.net *.split) [19:30] *** perlgod has quit IRC (*.net *.split) [19:30] *** carvite has quit IRC (*.net *.split) [19:30] *** abthorpet has quit IRC (*.net *.split) [19:30] *** toddf has joined #arpnetworks [19:30] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o toddf [19:30] *** perlgod has joined #arpnetworks [19:30] *** tabthorpe has joined #arpnetworks [19:30] *** mhoran has joined #arpnetworks [19:30] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mhoran [19:30] *** carvite has joined #arpnetworks [20:34] *** dj_goku has quit IRC (Quit: Lost terminal) [23:46] I've been using https://weechat.org/scripts/source/pushover.pl.html/ for a few months [23:47] pushover isn't free but it works well [23:48] and it's made/run by an openbsd dude!