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| up_the_irons | anyone here use Slack? | [16:39] | |
| mike-burns | I do, at work. | [16:40] | |
| up_the_irons | channel poll: any interest if we had a public Slack channel? We have a private one for ops'y stuff... I've been using Slack for a while for various other projects, but I'm not a power user
the main reason I like it is because notifications weechat-android is good, but drains my battery, so I tend to leave it off | [16:41] | |
| mike-burns | I wouldn't join a Slack group unless I had to. | [16:42] | |
| up_the_irons | roger that | [16:44] | |
| mike-burns | But there's possibly a large group of people who feel that way about IRC and aren't even in here to voice that. | [16:45] | |
| brycec | Can Slack be bridged with IRC? | [16:46] | |
| mercutio | there are slack/discord bots
so i suspect so | [16:46] | |
| mike-burns | There's a weeslack plugin for weechat.
And there is an official IRC bridge that everyone tries for a bit. | [16:46] | |
| mercutio | oh?
did it work well? how have you found using slack in a work context mike-burns ? | [16:47] | |
| mike-burns | I like using Slack at work because there's a 0% chance I'll open it outside of work, which helps enforce a work/life balance. | [16:47] | |
| mercutio | haha | [16:47] | |
| mike-burns | (I, uh, really dislike using Slack.) | [16:47] | |
| up_the_irons | haha | [16:48] | |
| mercutio | speaking of bots, a bot in here could be nice | [16:49] | |
| brycec | BryceBot: o/ | [16:49] | |
| BryceBot | o | [16:49] | |
| mike-burns | Maybe a bot that sends a notification to up_the_irons when someone says his nick -- this could help with his battery issue? | [16:49] | |
| mercutio | one that can kick that thing that comes in | [16:49] | |
| fIorz | sounds more like the job for a client script or possibly a bouncer? | [16:50] | |
| mike-burns | Oh true. https://weechat.org/scripts/stable/tag/notify/ | [16:51] | |
| mercutio | there are a lot | [16:52] | |
| mike-burns | push*.* seem to be the mobile device ones. | [16:52] | |
| mercutio | what is libnotify? | [16:52] | |
| mike-burns | I think that's GONME?
GNOME | [16:52] | |
| mercutio | the mac notification thing seemed more popular
hmm pushsafer may be good? | [16:53] | |
| mike-burns | I don't see their pricing. | [16:55] | |
| mercutio | that's what i'm trying to find :) | [16:55] | |
| mike-burns | Same with Notify My Android. | [16:56] | |
| mercutio | 1000 additional API calls0.99 EUR (0.99 EUR / 1000 API Calls)
https://www.pushsafer.com/en/faq#answer2 | [16:56] | |
| mike-burns | Aha nice sleuthing.
That's not bad. | [16:56] | |
| mercutio | yeah it's cheaper if you buy more
but seems reasonably affordable i suspect that something free will have terrible mobile clients | [16:56] | |
| fIorz | it's funny how a fundamental functionality of the communications network has been monopolized, isn't it? | [16:57] | |
| mercutio | yeah actually there really should be something free that is good enough | [16:57] | |
| mike-burns | Maybe Pushjet is free but you have to host it yourself? And I do know a good host ... | [16:57] | |
| fIorz | hehe :-) | [16:58] | |
| mercutio | More clients are under development; Web, Linux (GTK), Windows and OS X.
so it's android only atm and i don't see an apple one but it's bsd licensed.. | [16:58] | |
| mike-burns | Maybe someone else has made an iOS one. | [16:59] | |
| mercutio | i don't use ios | [16:59] | |
| mike-burns | Nor do I. | [16:59] | |
| mercutio | but it might hurt adoption a little | [16:59] | |
| BryceBot | That's what she said!! | [16:59] | |
| up_the_irons | BryceBot: no | [17:00] | |
| BryceBot | Oh, okay... I'm sorry. 'but it might hurt adoption a little' | [17:00] | |
| fIorz | I think on iOS you can't because apps just get terminated in the background when RAM is tight or something? | [17:00] | |
| mercutio | they even host the website on github | [17:00] | |
| up_the_irons | a bot to send notifications is an idea, but then the question is, *how* does that thing to do it? i'd like a push notification to my phone. but yeah, you guys are already looking at the push related services | [17:01] | |
| mike-burns | I don't see a third-party iOS implementation on GH, either. Oh well. | [17:01] | |
| mercutio | up_the_irons: yeh this one is free even | [17:01] | |
| mike-burns | up_the_irons: Android or iOS? | [17:01] | |
| mercutio | i'm still trying to figure out how to run the server... | [17:01] | |
| up_the_irons | mike-burns: android | [17:01] | |
| mercutio | the weechat side i think is easy
but this has multiple uses... | [17:01] | |
| mike-burns | A+. | [17:01] | |
| mercutio | you could notify all kinds of things :) | [17:01] | |
| up_the_irons | mercutio: which one are you looking at? | [17:02] | |
| mercutio | pushjet | [17:02] | |
| up_the_irons | ah | [17:02] | |
| mercutio | https://github.com/Pushjet/Pushjet-Server-Api.git
think this is the server | [17:02] | |
| mike-burns | But you might need the connectors and server-broker?
Very unclear how this fits. Maybe there are docs ... | [17:03] | |
| up_the_irons | hmm pushjet seems kinda cool | [17:03] | |
| mercutio | yeah i can't find good docs | [17:03] | |
| fIorz | is that using its own protocol, or just an interface to google's push service? | [17:03] | |
| up_the_irons | it uses GCM (google cloud messaging) | [17:03] | |
| mercutio | i wonder if this is too alpha | [17:03] | |
| fIorz | because then I think you have to pay google for access? | [17:03] | |
| up_the_irons | seems a little alpha yeah | [17:03] | |
| mike-burns | I thought GCM is free. | [17:04] | |
| fIorz | is it? | [17:04] | |
| mike-burns | mike-burns shrugs | [17:04] | |
| fIorz | fIorz shrugs, too | [17:04] | |
| mercutio | https://onesignal.com/
is this free? | [17:04] | |
| mike-burns | > Latest commit 7ddb7df on Oct 21, 2016 | [17:04] | |
| mercutio | yaeh i think it's not stable enough
err established enough | [17:05] | |
| mike-burns | I don't understand why OneSignal is "100% Free". | [17:05] | |
| mercutio | support contracts
for heavy users i think https://techcrunch.com/2017/08/15/onesignal-series-a/ | [17:05] | |
| mike-burns | OK that makes sense. | [17:05] | |
| mercutio | it’s free for customers if they’re willing to share their interest and transaction data with large brands and advertisers, who can then use that data for better targeting. From a privacy perspective, Deglin said it’s similar to sharing user data with an ad network. | [17:06] | |
| mike-burns | oh. | [17:06] | |
| fIorz | another option would be just use SMS? :-) | [17:06] | |
| mercutio | you still need sms gateway
and then you pay per sms | [17:06] | |
| mike-burns | Email->SMS | [17:06] | |
| fIorz | well, sure, it's not free, but at least it's not a monopoly | [17:07] | |
| mercutio | idk, the current tech should allow to message without sms
also i reckon it's better if can respond too :) | [17:07] | |
| mike-burns | He just needs to know that he should open weechat-android.
This is what Yo is for!
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| mercutio | https://airnotifier.github.io/ | [17:08] | |
| fIorz | and in principle, you only need a mobile phone, in which case you in principle even could support responses via SMS ;-) | [17:08] | |
| mercutio | am i missing something with this? | [17:08] | |
| mike-burns | Anyway, many phone providers offer email->SMS gateways, e.g. 5551234567@txt.att.net sends a text message.
mercutio: that needs an app on the other end. | [17:09] | |
| fIorz | (well, and a SIM, obviously) | [17:09] | |
| mercutio | oh so it doesn't provide apps? | [17:09] | |
| mike-burns | Right yeah, it's used by app developers. | [17:10] | |
| mercutio | this is way harder than i thought it'd be :)
onesignal looked promising, but harvesting user data sounds Evil (TM) | [17:10] | |
| up_the_irons | yeah in theory i could just do email to SMS but it just feels crude | [17:11] | |
| mike-burns | If you're willing to spend 1EUR/mo, you could try the Pushsafer weechat plugin. | [17:11] | |
| up_the_irons | i recon we've spent more than 1EU/mo just talking about this | [17:12] | |
| mike-burns | Ha! | [17:12] | |
| mercutio | pushsafer was free for the first API calls too | [17:12] | |
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| well pushsafer looked interesting but i can't for the life of me figure out how to create a private key
it just shows blank where it should be their built in notifier has the same issue :) | [17:37] | ||
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| dne | I've been using https://weechat.org/scripts/source/pushover.pl.html/ for a few months
pushover isn't free but it works well and it's made/run by an openbsd dude! | [23:46] | |
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