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   brycec: BryceBot: no
   BryceBot: Oh, okay... I'm sorry. 'Lefty: contract'
   brycec: Yeah I suppose my point was that ROR (and Rails in general) just doesn't come up on today's buzzword bingo cards very often.
   mike-burns: These days it's less of a buzzword and more of a stable piece of software. The progression of tech.
   
 There was quite a bit about the future of Ruby at RubyConf this year.
   
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-A9eRzCBL0&index=1&list=PLE7tQUdRKcyayGHjjxZOmVEGsxX-rczZt - opening keynote from the creator of Ruby.
   BryceBot: YouTube video: "RubyConf 2017: Opening Keynote - Good Change, Bad Change by Yukihiro Matsumoto" by Confreaks
   mike-burns: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2WgVr1rv3c&index=3&list=PLE7tQUdRKcyayGHjjxZOmVEGsxX-rczZt
   BryceBot: YouTube video: "RubyConf 2017: Keynote - The Impermanence of Software by Andy Croll" by Confreaks
   mike-burns: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiT2XEWae1c&index=20&list=PLE7tQUdRKcyayGHjjxZOmVEGsxX-rczZt
   BryceBot: YouTube video: "RubyConf 2017: Saving Ruby from the Apocalypse by Jason Charnes" by Confreaks
   mike-burns: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qH_y45he4-o&index=33&list=PLE7tQUdRKcyayGHjjxZOmVEGsxX-rczZt
   BryceBot: YouTube video: "RubyConf 2017: Keynote: Growing Old by Chad Fowler" by Confreaks
   mike-burns: Those are the culture-based ones. There were also quite a few technical talks about the actual technical future of Ruby. It's going to be fast!
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   brycec: Those look/sound like worthwhile watches, thanks. And good point on the transition from "buzz" to stable/reliable/core infrastructure. (Not that these are mutually exclusive, plenty of companies are building themselves on top of tech that is still in the buzzword bingo card.) Just like COBOL and C aren't on the bingo card anymore...
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   brycec: Okay, troubleshooting time! I'm trying to reach a VPS of qbit's at 174.136.100.91. From the outside world, no problem - ping, connect, etc. From ARP subnets (1 Thunder, 1 VPS, 1 Metal, across 2 accounts/VLANs), no response. I'm pretty sure ARP doesn't block traffic between its VLAns (because I can connect across my accounts). qbit claims "i ain't got no blockins
   qbit: o/
   brycec: " and I've confirmed his netmask is set right. Anyone got thoughts? Can anyone else ping that IP from ARP?
   qbit: i ain't!
   brycec: (Stupid embedded enter)
   
 (I don't believe you!)
   
 (:P)
   qbit: ( http://ix.io/DiP )
   
 mah pf.conf
   brycec: (heh I see you've given up on your matrix_whitelist thing)
   qbit: yeah, no needed since they fixed the dumb "rejoin rooms" thing
   brycec: pfctl -t abusive_ssh -T test 174.136.103.130 ; pfctl -t abusive_www -T test 174.136.103.130 ; pfctl -t fail2ban -T test 174.136.103.130
   
 pretty please, qbit?
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   qbit: 0/1 addresses match.
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   qbit: 0/1 addresses match.
   
 0/1 addresses match.
   brycec: Then I'm at a loss :(
   
 qbit: Do you at least see (tcpdump) my pings?
   
 tcpdump -i vio0 -c 10 icmp
   qbit: what is the tcpdump command?
   
 <3
   
 yes
   
 15:27:16.105402 vps3.cobryce.com > spark.akb.io: icmp: echo request (DF)
   brycec: Are you able to ping back?
   qbit: no, shows host is down
   brycec: route -n get 174.136.103.130
   
 (That's OpenSBD syntax, obvs)
   
 It *should* say gateway: <your gateway>
   qbit: huh
   
 spark# rout
   
 route to
   
 destination
   
 mask
   
 interface
   
 if address
   
 priority
   
 flags
   
 use
   
 1824
   
 ohgod
   BryceBot: That's what she said!!
   qbit: i have no idea how i did a horizontal select
   
 that's neat
   brycec: and completely useless :P
   qbit: http://ix.io/DiS
   
 so it's trying to go out my alias?
   brycec: It's trying to go direct
   
 without routing
   qbit: gimme yo ip!
   -: IM_AWESOME sent a long message: IM_AWESOME_2017-12-22_22:31:12.txt <https://vps3.cobryce.com/_matrix/media/v1/download/cobryce.com/XcJzeygMbfHedeMUQuJjYMCs>
   brycec: ^ That's what it's supposed to look like
   qbit: :O
   
 inet 174.136.100.82 netmask 0xffff0000 broadcast 174.136.255.255
   
 dat netmask
   brycec: whoa dude
   
 no wonder
   
 http://man.openbsd.org/hostname.if
   qbit: how do i tell :D
   brycec: qbit it guessed at the netmask since you didn't give it one
   qbit: try now
   brycec: It should be "alias 174.136.100.82 255.255.255.255"
   
 ping still not wresponding
   qbit: i have that - but with the proper subnet
   
 oh, literally 255.255.255.255?
   brycec: Aliases usually are given a /32
   
 (notice the examples ;))
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   brycec: qbit: you're gonna want to `ifconfig vio0 -alias 174.136.100.82 ; ifconfig vio0 alias 174.136.100.82 255.255.255.255`
   
 That'll delete and readd the alias manually.
   
 Or just delete then netstart
   
 (But netstart on its own won't delete the previous alias, you def need to do that manually)
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   qbit: woo
   
 brycec: work now? :D
   brycec: qbit: Negative, no ping responses, no TCP connect
   qbit: inet 174.136.100.82 netmask 0xffff0000 broadcast 174.136.255.255
   
 ehhem
   brycec: bro did you even udpate your hostname.vio0?
   
 *update
   qbit: yes
   brycec: Well not very well :P
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   qbit: http://ix.io/DiX
   brycec: qbit: Shouldn't that second line be "inet alias" not just "alias"?
   
 (And how that's even working at all, I'll never know :P)
   qbit: i don't know
   
 but it doesn't work even if i run you command
   
 i mean.. it works
   
 but the alias mask stays incorrect
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   brycec: The next step is clear: /tableflip
   
 @tableflip
   BryceBot: No! Fuck you, brycec!! Don't you dare un-flip this table, mcchunkie. DON'T YOU DARE!
   staticsafe: o_o
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   qbit: heh
   
 #nocontext
   brycec: #nobot
   
 @tableflip
   BryceBot: (╯‵Д′)╯彡┻━┻
   brycec: fwiw my commands forgot the "inet" parts too
   
 **`ifconfig vio0 inet -alias 174.136.100.82 ; ifconfig vio0 inet alias 174.136.100.82 255.255.255.255`
   
 Because I'm not perfect.
   
 **`ifconfig vio0 inet -alias 174.136.100.82 ; ifconfig vio0 inet alias 174.136.100.82 netmask 255.255.255.255` even
   qbit: that did it
   
 workin?
   brycec: yuppers!
   
 bitchin
   
 Thank you very much for taking the time to work through this and crash your box :)
   qbit: np
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