up_the_irons, arp doesn't do domain registration by chance does it would be nice to have a domain registrar that's actually competent I like hover.com since that's really TUCOWS and their prices are rock bottom, and the UI is reasonably good. for another data point, i've used gandi.net since 2000 and they've been great that's who I was complaining about actually well I don't like their new website oh, yeah, i was just logging in and it's...interesting but I also had a bad unrelated experience with yahoo today which is what I was complaining about when I said "actually competent" my father bought a small business webhosting/email thing from yahoo and of course calls me and not them when he has trouble you can still get to the old stuff via https://v4.gandi.net/ well - still marking hover.com as useable here gandi doesn't park domains on delete I've learned and I'd hate to move everything to someone who does that is true in my experience, and there have been plenty of times in the last 17 years i've forgotten to renew on time I just about had to today because I couldn't find the next button to try and pay them it's up at the top instead of at the bottom where it ought to be they just hijack your NS records and everything returns NXDOMAIN ah you haven't gotten as far as I've gotten once I did eventually get to unregistered available for reregistration icann ought to police the registrars but... doesn't