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| mercutio | so bitcoin, eh? | [17:41] |
| mhoran | Yup. I've made back all my losses from the 1200 I spent on 1 BTC in whenever to now... and then some. | [17:54] |
| mercutio | it was nearly $2000 the other day
now it's around $2100 pretty crazy i've started altcoin mining making about $4 USD/day if i do it 24/7 with a video card i bought in 2014.. | [17:54] |
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| mike-burns | That's pretty good! | [18:29] |
| mercutio | yeah it's good enough i am researching buying more cards and doing on linux :)
at least during winter | [18:35] |
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| mkb | how much electricity does it use? | [18:57] |
| mercutio | it's winter, so that doesn't really matter right now :)
but quite a lot... enough that i can notice the room is warmer when i mine overnight | [19:06] |
| mkb | mkb thinks it's summer... :) | [19:08] |
| mercutio | well for you it is :) | [19:08] |
| mike-burns | Summer is a state of mind. | [19:09] |
| mercutio | i'm still wearing shorts..
and i haven't used a heater yet, but daily high has shifted to around 15c.. https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-Support-Graphics-03G-P4-6162-KR/dp/B01KU2CIIY | [19:09] |
| mkb | now if they can only figure out how to run an ac and mine bitcoins at the same time | [19:09] |
| mercutio | my research suggests that this card may not be too bad under linux | [19:10] |
| mkb | maybe with the internet of things my thermostat will start mining bitcoins | [19:10] |
| mercutio | not being very loud or using too much power, while still mining reasonably well.
the extracting heat problem is actually very interesting a lot of the worlds power consumption is now used by data centres. and with modern globalisation moving power consumption to colder parts of the world seasonally is starting to make more and more sense | [19:10] |
| mkb | traditionally you never turn your servers off
I wonder if people like amazon do I guess maybe it would be too fragmented... but maybe they can migrate | [19:14] |
| mercutio | with clusters that's changing | [19:15] |
| mkb | yeah | [19:15] |
| mercutio | but right now what's been happening first is cores are turned off when not used
in typical numa server configurations one side of the host can be not used at all under moderate load | [19:15] |
| mkb | oh yeah apply all the laptop power management to servers
and more | [19:15] |
| mercutio | and only start to use the second half as load increases
but yeah if you had a vmware cluster of 20 servers or such you can have 16 servers running all of the time and 4 that are spun up as needed and their are systems etc to power on/off servers as needed adn like say in the middle of the night you may be able to shut some down and spread across fewer | [19:15] |
| mkb | mkb looks angrily at IPMI | [19:16] |
| mercutio | of course that'd be using centralised storage
and the centralised storage will still be pretty power hungry | [19:17] |
| mkb | and the power companies negotiate with power-heavy industry to do the work at odd times to keep load so they don't have to bring plants on and offline | [19:17] |
| mercutio | yeah | [19:17] |
| mkb | I wonder if they'll start or have started doing the same with datacenters | [19:17] |
| mercutio | and hot water is the same frequently
well google were talking about shifting load in europe i think tehy have a data centre in iceland or thereabouts | [19:17] |
| mkb | google is in a fight here in south carolina because they're using so muchwater | [19:18] |
| mercutio | haha
we have water issues here too by people bottling water of all things we pay heaps more for water than people bottling acutally i think california had water fights too? | [19:18] |
| mkb | it's interesting how that differs around the world
yeah | [19:18] |
| mercutio | from farmers using way too much water
while everyone else was meant to conserve water | [19:19] |
| mkb | some places it's plentiful and nobody is concerned at all and in others there's huge fights over who's using it | [19:19] |
| mercutio | when their conservation made hardly any difference compared to farmers that were farming water-intensive things
when for things like farming you can do it in a different location for different crops. globalisation creates so many issues but it makes some things work a lot better if everyone would stop fighting and embrace it | [19:19] |
| mkb | and our farmers get to deal with flooding
though supposedly we're in a drought too | [19:20] |
| mercutio | instead of sticking trade tarrifs on and trying to stay local for inefficient things
subsidising inefficiency etc droughts can cause flooding as the ground becomes hard | [19:20] |
| mkb | this was a storm | [19:21] |
| mercutio | if you get a months downpour in one day
with no rain before | [19:21] |
| mkb | ah right | [19:21] |
| mercutio | the ground will be hard and won't drain nearly as well
whereas if it's spaced out it'll be soft and absorb more also roads will become more oily and slippery when it hasn't rained in a long time so you have to be extra careful about stopping distance, which no-one is. so you have to assume that everyone is crazy :) i love/hate driving in the rain here people get extra impatient, and drive quicker | [19:21] |
| mkb | heh | [19:23] |
| mercutio | and like say someone is crossing the road, and you're stopped at lights, then someone behind is more likely to beep | [19:23] |
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