yep It's gotta happen some day... heh I'd assume that when kvr2 dies, mhoran , you'd just get moved to another machine, possibly but not guaranteedly a kct* host which is like being on Thunder... But you could probably just ask to have your VM migrated to the newer hosts anyways. I hear that when kvr02 dies, you also die in real life. lol but I've never been on kvr02 so why would *I* die? :p Ah but have you truly _lived_ if you haven't been on kvr02? I never claimed to have truly _lived_. For all anyone knows, I am but a figment of their imagination. (This crash brought to you by "Bryce needs a better VPS, let's get that Thunder rolling, up_the_irons" and viewers like you) mike-burns: brycec : ROFL! clever guys...