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[15:32] <karstensrage> how often would you say arp restarts your machines without warning ?
[15:34] <karstensrage> i was thinking it's been a while with my current vps and lo and behold this weekend they did it again
[15:36] <mhoran> Never.
[15:36] <mhoran> Maybe once.
[15:36] <mhoran> In ... a lot of years.
[15:37] <karstensrage> really? how long have you been with them?
[15:37] <mhoran> 2009?
[15:38] <mhoran> 4/5/2010.
[15:38] <karstensrage> and only once or only once you noticed?
[15:38] <mkb> I've had the os outright crash more often
[15:38] <mhoran> Well I'd typically notice because my weechat would be disconnect.
[15:38] <mhoran> ed
[15:39] <mkb> even scheduled reboots are rare
[15:39] <mkb> I suppose with thunder it'll be even more rare
[15:39] <mhoran> Yeah I'm definitely thinking of upgrading.
[15:39] <JC_Denton> one of my arp VMs: 15:42:01 up 219 days, 13:53,  1 user,  load average: 0.00, 0.01, 0.05
[15:40] <karstensrage> how often are those?
[15:40] <karstensrage> and what's thunder?
[15:40] <mhoran> I can't remember the last time.
[15:40] <mkb> like once or twice in the five years or so I've been here
[15:40] <mhoran> Yeah.
[15:40] <mhoran> Thunder is a semi-dedicated solution (dedicated cores, RAM) with dedicated storage.
[15:41] <mhoran> Ceph cluster so your VM can be moved around to other hardware during maintenance.
[15:56] <brycec> Yeah, very infrequent. The kvm host process randomly died on me once... Not ARP's fault, just a program that crashed.
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[16:20] <mercutio> karstensrage: it may be kernel oddity?
[16:21] <mercutio> even if kvm crashes, chances are that it's due to some virtio bug or such...
[16:21] <mercutio> and given that there aren't widespread crashes, maybe it's an uncommon kernel or OS or such
[16:23] <mike-burns> I joined just after mhoran did (or was it before?), and same experience: can't remember the last reboot that wasn't an OS crash or me upgrading.
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[16:24] <mhoran> You totally copied me. But I think you came along because I shut down the dedicated server we were using
[16:25] <mike-burns> Yeah that seems right. Thanks for finding this service, BTW.
[16:32] <mhoran> Yeah!
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[18:20] <Nahual> karstensrage: To add to the data points, I did have my system rebooted once but I was notified as it was a support related issue and performance of the VM.
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[19:53] <nathani> .
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[22:36] <karstensrage> my beef is there is nothing i can do. i need my machines up and i can't have them rebooted out from under me.
[22:37] <karstensrage> like could you wait until monday ?
[22:38] <JC_Denton> lol
[22:38] <JC_Denton> you're probably better off with a dedicated, bare metal machine
[22:38] <JC_Denton> that way you're only taken out by equipment failures
[22:40] <karstensrage> who deals with those ?
[22:42] <JC_Denton> the support staff
[22:48] <karstensrage> how often are equipment failures
[22:54] <JC_Denton> you'd have to ask them. most of the folks here are just customers or freenode users.
[22:54] <JC_Denton> i've been very happy with my services.
[22:54] <JC_Denton> and i suspect most people here will say the same.
[22:55] <JC_Denton> no service can guarantee you 100% uptime.