hm up_the_irons: are you there? My Thunder was set up wrong and cost too much - it was supposed to be an "All-Purpose" with 8GB extra RAM, so like $90/month, but instead it's a $130/month "Large"-based configuration. If you haven't already, email support. IRC's not the place to sort our account issues. I just did Excellent. I guess my main question is whether I should just abandon it in case it will need blown away anyways to shrink the configuration, or go ahead and start setting up my own O/S, etc. I'd probably assume it's going to be blown away, but that's just how I prioritize tasks -- possibility of losing work I do now versus the 15 other tasks I need to work on, I'll just work on one of those other tasks. FQ-CoDel was just merged today, up_the_irons & mercutio https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-cvs&m=149392068217244&w=2 sweet :) hwclock: Cannot access the Hardware Clock via any known method. <-- when booting up the gentoo install cd on a thunder vps, not sure if it matters i don't think it should matter i think as long as linux gets the real time, then the hwclock program isn't needed i remember having problems saving time with hwclock a long time ago on shutdowns.. ah, gentoo how i love thee loved it for many, many years then an ill-timed disk crash at 4 am made me hate compiling for a long, long time you should try using a single build server and distribute binary packages out to all your other gentoo servers :) caseyandgina: did that, long long ago ran a distcc farm to build binaries on master and spread them out anybody a good C prog looking for small side work? I'm a C programmer who works at a consultancy, if that counts. what's their usual rate? (Answered via PM. Turns out the first three lines of code are free!) yep :D much obliged