nice how ntp's web site ran out of disk space :) i just noticed the freebsd mail, and was wondering what would be said on their site.. http://support.ntp.org/bin/view/Main/SecurityNotice forgotten: it's available now anyone in here happen to be good with gmail filters? when I get a message to a mailing list I want it to go into a specific folder and not the inbox that works but when it's also to: me I want it in the inbox. is there a way to do that? might require scripting... the actual filter mechanism kinda blows. .. http://lifehacker.com/build-your-own-advanced-gmail-filters-with-scripts-1577462398 this is my work email; with my personal email I always get two copies: one from the list server and one from whoever sent it and I sort by list-id so the non-list copy stays in the inbox gmail combines messages with the same message-id though so that doesn't work mergers and acquisisions: https://freenode.net/news/pia-fn Just signed up for PIA! Didn't know about them wow interesting read and PIA looks pretty cool Sadly, I just paid for Cloak yesterday. Cloak is better in that it has apps for macos and ios that detect whether your network is open or password wifi, or ethernet, and then you can select not to enable under some conditions. people using VPNs for privacy... does it solve the problem or just move it somewhere else? the PIA apps just have "on" and "off". my logmein hamachi client is having trouble connecting.