*almost* everything came up, except dovecot, which complained about a really bad time jump. at least my ipv6 still works. :) RandalSchwartz: time jump while booted or between boots? Not sure. Feb 16 03:09:01 red dovecot: Fatal: Time just moved backwards by 28798 seconds. This might cause a lot of problems, so I'll just kill myself now. http://wiki.dovecot.org/TimeMovedBackwards just before that: Feb 16 11:08:57 red dovecot: Dovecot v1.2.17 starting up oh wow that's a huge jump back so it must've thought the time was wrong at first. looks to be 6 hours oh 8 hours :) maillog shows stuff at 2:39, then 3:09 eventually the middle part must be while my system was being rehosted Yeah - 8 hours would be GMT, so maybe it took a GMT time on boot yeh it may be an order thing yeah - my messages file shows 11-am-ish times so it definitely thought it was on GMT until everything finished warming up starting dovecot later in boot may help ... Feb 16 11:08:36 red syslogd: kernel boot file is /boot/kernel/kernel ... Feb 16 11:08:52 red ntpd[641]: ntpd 4.2.8p9-a (1): Starting so ntpd must've fixed it. because the timestamps are fixed after that. I've rebootted before, without this happening... oh i wonder if it thinks that the clock should be in local time when it's in UTC or such I suspect this is just a consequence of being moved. yeah - maybe it's a setting of the emulator. or something I should have set in freebsd sounds like a TZ thing to me yeah, perhaps freebsd wants to maintain the hardware clock in localtime, but it initially woke up in UTC. tzsetup should be able to adjust it No - I already have it correct. hmm Thu Feb 16 11:53:25 PST 2017 tzsetup also controls local/UTC Oh hmm. Maybe that's set wrong for me.