someone named perlgod here? I would beg to differ. :) RandalSchwartz: perhaps you can be the camel god ;) i remember reading your books years ago. i still have several of them, somewhere. though perhaps i've become a blasphemer now, i've become a bit of a rubyist ruby is the bastard child of Perl and Smalltalk. it's quite OK to like ruby did they ever get Unicode worked out? :) And given that Smalltalk was my first OO language, it's all good. Did _anyone_ get Unicode worked out?