[00:38] *** CaZe has quit IRC () [05:29] *** rucarrol is now known as OMGKitteh [05:34] *** joepie91_ has joined #arpnetworks [05:43] *** OMGKitteh has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [05:55] *** rucarrol has joined #arpnetworks [05:57] *** rucarrol is now known as OMGKitteh [07:29] *** joepie91_ has quit IRC (*.net *.split) [07:39] *** joepie91_ has joined #arpnetworks [09:39] So how do people feel about Trello being bought-up by Atlassian? [09:40] I'm not a huge Trello user, but I've come to rely on it for household lists, recipe cards, etc and I'm a bit apprehensive about anyone not-Trello running Trello. [09:40] that name rings a bell, but i have no idea who they are [09:40] oh, behind jira [09:41] I mean, Atlassian aint "bad" but I don't entirely trust them (or any outsider) to keep it running smoothly without upsetting the apple-cart. [09:41] mercutio: and Bitbucket among others. [09:41] ahh, i have used jira but not bitbucket [09:41] who knows really [09:41] i don't understand all of these buy outs [09:41] I used Bitbucket as an alternative to Github because they offered free private repos (but have since moved to Gitlab because it's free AND open-source) [09:42] but one thign is for sure. if it really turns terrible, a new thing will come along to replace it [09:42] http://blog.trello.com/trello-atlassian [09:43] well they seem to believe it'll be okay [09:44] only time will tell [09:44] If I want a one-click export (read: backup) of everything, I'd have to upgrade to Business Class :/ (It's fair, but I don't wanna upgrade...) But at least I can export individual boards, and there are apparently some other 3rd-party export options too. [09:44] mercutio: Call my cynical but almost all companies put on the "don't worry, it'll all be fine" face when they're bought/taken-over. [09:44] (Except for Pebble, lol) [09:44] heh [09:45] nah some of them seem to skip that part [09:45] but yeah none say it'll be terrible publically [09:45] i think the oracle buyout of sun is the worst buyout i've seen in a while [09:46] things seemed to turn sour very quickly [09:46] and they lost all of their key people afaik [09:46] they lost people like the guy that made java [09:46] and core zfs developers [09:46] there are probably some people who stayed [09:47] Yeah it's as-important to keep a positive face internally as it is externally, keeping talent is as important as keeping customers. [09:47] That's what she said!! [09:47] apparently there was a huge clash of cultures [09:48] it seems to me it should be easy to see if two companies have similar/reasonably compatible cultures [09:48] Not that ^ ever (maybe sometimes, I guess) is really taken into account for a buy-out/takeover. [09:48] but oracle was a very stiff/formal culture, and sun quite a relaxed culture in spite of their enterprise stuff [09:49] well maybe it shoudl be [09:49] Investors care about their money and if it doesn't go well, they'll sell rather than deal with the problem. [09:49] i think microsoft would have been better to buy sun out tbh [09:50] Man I'd totally forgotten about MS Java... that was a long, long time ago. [09:50] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Java_Virtual_Machine [09:50] Microsoft Java Virtual Machine :: The Microsoft Java Virtual Machine (MSJVM) is a discontinued proprietary Java virtual machine from Microsoft. It was first made available for Internet Explorer 3 so that users could run Java applets when browsing on the World Wide Web. It was the fastest Windows-based implementation of a Java virtual machine for the first two years after its release. Sun Microsystems, the creator of Java, sued Microsoft in Octobe [09:50] i never heard of it [09:50] oh interesting [09:51] it's weird how microsoft is bundling ubuntu with windows now [09:51] lol @ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend_and_extinguish [09:51] Embrace, extend and extinguish :: "Embrace, extend, and extinguish", also known as "Embrace, extend, and exterminate", is a phrase that the U.S. Department of Justice found that was used internally by Microsoft to describe its strategy for entering product categories involving widely used standards, extending those standards with proprietary capabilities, and then using those differences to disadvantage its competitors. Origin The strategy [19:18] BryceBot: oh damn, Atlassian bought Trello [19:19] I wonder how many people started their own Trello competitor today, in response. [19:19] well i hope things stay good [19:20] but like mercutio said, if people become unhappy, somebody else will fill that need