[00:34] *** Lucifer333 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [00:46] *** Lucifer333 has joined #arpnetworks [02:20] *** Lucifer333 has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) [03:34] *** ziyourenxiang has joined #arpnetworks [03:55] *** JC_Denton has quit IRC (*.net *.split) [03:55] *** JC_Denton has joined #arpnetworks [05:05] *** dj_goku has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) [05:05] *** dj_goku has joined #arpnetworks [05:05] *** dj_goku has quit IRC (Changing host) [05:05] *** dj_goku has joined #arpnetworks [05:10] *** dj_goku has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) [05:36] more ipv6 trouble this morning [05:36] *** Lucifer333 has joined #arpnetworks [05:37] packet loss on s3.lax.arpnetworks.com it seems [05:47] well the routes just changed and it's working better now [06:15] *** hazardous has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [06:15] *** hazardous has joined #arpnetworks [06:20] *** dj_goku has joined #arpnetworks [06:20] *** dj_goku has quit IRC (Changing host) [06:20] *** dj_goku has joined #arpnetworks [06:56] up_the_irons - how much time are you on duolingo each day?! [09:13] *** dj_goku has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) [09:30] *** ziyourenxiang has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) [09:42] *** dj_goku has joined #arpnetworks [09:42] *** dj_goku has quit IRC (Changing host) [09:42] *** dj_goku has joined #arpnetworks [10:34] *** dj_goku has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) [11:14] *** dj_goku has joined #arpnetworks [11:14] *** dj_goku has quit IRC (Changing host) [11:14] *** dj_goku has joined #arpnetworks [14:10] *** freedomcode is now known as reardencode [15:24] *** KILLALLHUMANS01 has joined #arpnetworks [15:24] *** KILLALLHUMANS01 has quit IRC (Changing host) [15:24] *** KILLALLHUMANS01 has joined #arpnetworks [15:34] *** dj_goku has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) [16:10] *** dj_goku has joined #arpnetworks [16:10] *** dj_goku has quit IRC (Changing host) [16:10] *** dj_goku has joined #arpnetworks [16:16] *** dj_goku has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [16:19] RandalSchwartz: I haven't done Duolingo in a long time, but started again a few weeks ago. I probably spend 10 - 15 minutes a day on it. [16:30] I do Duolingo for Spanish everyday [16:30] its fun [16:32] I did Duo for German and Russian for awhile, but I can never stick with it. [16:34] I know ant has like a 1000 day streak [16:34] I got up there once, like 300 days or so, but lost it [16:36] damn impressive [16:36] My streaks topped out around a couple weeks. [16:37] I had a 600 day or better streak, but then ended up off the net for a few weeks. I'm back to 134 now. [16:37] Heck... I was even ensuring doing a lesson using shipboard wifi just to maintain my streak. :) [16:38] Has anyone played with Duo's new "clubs"feature? [16:39] not me yet [16:40] (me either) [16:41] nor I [16:41] maybe there should be an arp-club? [16:41] I actually had to use the streak freeze 2 or 3 times (after reaching 1000 days)...so those 1196 days are actually a lie [16:41] streak freeze is still legal! [16:42] I have 4459 lingots now [16:42] already bought everything I can buy :) [16:42] and that's without any streak bets [16:42] I have 7926 [16:42] damn [16:42] holy shit [16:43] I'm down for an ARP club; who's with me? [16:43] * brycec has just 45 lingots, but I'm okay with that. [16:43] well, I get 100+ lingots every 10 days.. [16:44] up_the_irons is my username. I follow RandalSchwartz and ant, not sure if any of you other guys are there. Add me and i'll follow back. [16:44] ant: damn! [16:44] i have almost 800 [16:45] added you up_the_irons [16:45] ditto [16:45] my username is staticsafe [16:46] followed back [16:46] up_the_irons: I guess you could create a club and post the name and code in here (haven't tried that, but it looks like it should work like that) [16:47] I had the German owl, but they took it away, LOL. They added a lot more German lessons and decided I wasn't worthy enough until I finish the new ones, I suppose. [16:47] hahahaha [16:48] But I'm able to "Test out" of almost everything now; I can even understand the computer German voice in a loud Starbucks [16:49] where the heck is the create a club screen... [16:52] in the android app it's right under the "clubs menu" (that's probably not the right term) [16:52] Oh right, it's app-only. Not on the website. That's why I hadn't played with the feature yet [16:54] ooooh [16:55] gotta grab my phone [17:01] invite code: HMEF5K [17:02] looks like clubs are language specific [17:02] can't join that unless im learning german [17:02] oh really? [17:02] yeah [17:02] ack too bad [17:02] nein fur mi, den [17:02] :( [17:02] someone make a spanish club, please. [17:02] fwiw you can enroll in multiple languages [17:03] Dann müssen wir eben alle Deutsch lernen... [17:03] Yes - I'm doing spanish and portuguese [17:03] das klingt ausgezeichnet [17:03] oddly - I have the same length streak in both. :) [17:03] i can do the spanish one [17:03] Even though I'm "actively" (because I'm lazy) learning Russian, I switched to my German self and joined :) [17:03] i'm also lazily learning Russian [17:04] 13 slots remaining... [17:04] spanish: 853EUA [17:05] Heh.. I tried to cut-n-paste that [17:05] russian: SFBNW7 [17:06] \o/ [17:06] I'm in! [17:06] estoy entre [17:06] or something like that :) [17:06] I *do* like the new chatbots [17:06] except I occasionally go off script, and it breaks it. :) [17:07] portuguese: 3ETH5C [17:07] I dig the concept, haven't played with them yet. [17:07] never tried the chat bot [17:08] looks like you can only be a member of one club per language though [17:08] the UI is locking me out of starting another [17:09] so if I want to invite others for spanish, I'll have to leave this one. :( [17:09] it seems they need to work on this Club feature... [17:09] too restrictive [17:09] Luckily, still have "friends" on the web version [17:10] oh cool it's free [17:10] maybe i should try it :) [17:10] I have streak set to "1 point". It's trivial to get at least 1 point on the web... just pick "timed practice" and get *anything* right. [17:10] then let it time out [17:10] heh [17:10] on the phone, can't do that. have to complete at least one thing. [17:11] haha [17:12] it starts kind of hard hah [17:12] i'm translation level 4 in German, so if I just verify _anything_ in a document, it's 5 points [17:13] i'm doing level one french. [17:13] but i don't know french :) [17:13] *** jcv has quit IRC (*.net *.split) [17:13] *** hive-mind has quit IRC (*.net *.split) [17:13] *** gizmoguy has quit IRC (*.net *.split) [17:13] *** BryceBot has quit IRC (*.net *.split) [17:13] *** nesta has quit IRC (*.net *.split) [17:13] *** tabthorpe has quit IRC (*.net *.split) [17:14] *** ant has quit IRC (*.net *.split) [17:14] *** jcv has joined #arpnetworks [17:14] *** gizmoguy has joined #arpnetworks [17:14] *** ant has joined #arpnetworks [17:14] *** nesta has joined #arpnetworks [17:14] *** tabthorpe has joined #arpnetworks [17:14] *** hive-mind has joined #arpnetworks [17:14] *** BryceBot has joined #arpnetworks [17:14] *** tabthorpe has quit IRC (Changing host) [17:14] *** tabthorpe has joined #arpnetworks [17:15] *** BryceBot has quit IRC (Changing host) [17:15] *** BryceBot has joined #arpnetworks [17:19] I'm thinking chinese might be a good one if we're gonna be at war with them [17:19] although it'll probably just be an economic war [17:20] ok how do i join this group? [17:20] which langauge? [17:20] oh [17:20] gooddamnit [17:20] why is it per language [17:20] i started with french [17:20] agreed. [17:20] ikr [17:20] i suppose no-one else is doing french [17:21] not i [17:21] "darling - you spoke french" [17:21] I might try french once I get my spanish a bit more practical [17:21] french seems easier than german [17:21] nearly anything is easier than german :) [17:21] spanish could be fun [17:21] wut, german isn't that hard [17:21] i'm finding Russian hard [17:22] spanish has simple pronunciation going for it [17:22] but french is easier than german to learn [17:22] from my understanding, and from how much i can recognise without knowing [17:22] once you learn the letters, you can read any word. spelling bees in spanish would be trivial. [17:23] haha i got a smart watch today. [17:23] it's already telling me that i'm too inactive [17:23] German words are pronounced like they are spelled. Russian is like wtf is going on [17:29] I'm doing French... but only because it seemed easy since I took it (to fluency) back in high school. [17:29] But I didn't bother starting a French club. [17:33] French was fairly easy, and once you know the rules of pronounciation, it's all just pronounced liked it's spelled, so simple. [17:34] Russian has been fun [17:34] Not too hard, but enough differences to make it really interesting. (like they don't use articles, no "the" etc) [17:35] having had a field day in German with declension (changing of articles and adjective endings based on case and gender), I'm so happy Russian has no articles [17:36] is doing the basics of spanish, french, and german crazy? [17:37] i'm not sure if i'd do better just pursuing one further first, rather than trying all 3 a little :) [17:37] I say try all three [17:37] Try them all! [17:37] heh [17:37] just try whatever is comfortable [17:43] Well that's obnoxious. My ARP Networks payment this month caused an overdraft fee because my monthly transfer didn't finish due to the holiday Monday. [17:43] Ugh. [17:44] I sure wish they would have just denied that payment instead... [17:44] you could try ringing your bank up [17:44] i've rung bank up about bank fees before and they've reversed them [17:44] yeah. I will. [17:45] as long as you're reasonable they probably will [17:46] I got confused when I first started with both ES and PT at the same time [17:46] because they're the same... except when they are different [17:46] Pt? [17:46] I think I know what happened this time... I've been moving things over to Privacy.com which uses an ACH instead of using my MasterCard directly with ARP. So I think they were a little more graceful with the MasterCard vs the ACH. :( [17:46] portuegues [17:46] except I can't spell that very well :) [17:46] i thought doing french first made spanish seem easier. [17:47] ahh right [17:47] so I decided to set PT aside for a bit until I could get clear on ES [17:48] now that I'm at 49% on ES, I ripped through some PT beginning lessons and got up to 15% in the few weeks I had before my Brasil trip [17:48] so doing multiple at once seems common [17:48] and deadly :) [17:48] i hear about kids learing a couple of extra languages [17:48] but we're meant to get less flexible as we get older... [17:49] you can learn languages fast if you focus on communication as a primary goal (like actually talk to people), rather than lessons, grammar, spelling, etc... [17:49] and that's as an adult [17:49] ahh [17:50] my German sky-rocketed once I actually got penpals from mylanguageexchange.com [17:50] at least it's not plural [17:50] my languagesexchange. :) [17:51] haha [17:51] i screw up ein/eine and la/le all of the time [17:51] I'm up to the part in spanish where the suffix letter is deceiving for an item [17:51] so I'm getting masc/fem mixed up a lot [17:52] Hm. What's an example of that, RandalSchwartz ? [17:52] interesting note... almost all the "feelings" words in spanish are feminine, even though they end in a consonant [17:53] Genders for words annoys the crap out of me because it's a lot of rote memorization rather than anything more "logical" (particularly with German, in my limited experience) [17:53] La [17:53] the [17:53] the one [17:53] (to) it [17:53] Explain [17:53] La personalidad [17:53] La tensión [17:54] i have 40 xp [17:54] I would have though both of those to be El, not La [17:54] based on rules I worked out earlier. [17:54] brycec: have a chat partner helps since you'll learn it just through repetition, instead of rote memorization [17:54] "the personality" "the tension" [17:54] *having [17:54] Huh. I would have gone with "la" for those. (and I would have been right) Then again, I learned Spanish by living in Arizona (and 2 years education in middle-school) [17:54] No doubt, up_the_irons [17:55] Yeah - if you've heard it, it's in your head. [17:55] Specifically a partner that corrects you, I imagine. [17:55] well even if they don't, you'll pick up on how _they_ talk [17:55] I spend one weekend a month in Tijuana... I struggle to talk, but I find myself reading more and more things, like the signs and the newspapers, with relative ease. [17:55] like, if you ever only hear it the correct way, you never have the bad version in your head [17:55] memorization of these things eventually becomes what "feels" right. Same as I speak English, etc. [17:56] Good points, up [17:56] also - the netflix in mx has american programs, but dubbed to spanish with english subtitles, or vice versa. [17:56] yeah, it's great when you get to that point, b/c you can tell if something is wrong by just "feeling" that it's wrong. [17:56] in fact, you can't turn off the spanish subtitles(!) [17:56] although you can select english or spanish audio [17:57] I got two new friends, and more lingots! [17:58] *** dj_goku has joined #arpnetworks [17:59] kudos [18:00] i'm stil not sure hwo to join clubs [18:00] you have the app? [18:00] and not the web? [18:00] i am using web [18:00] then no [18:00] oh [18:00] i'm installing on phone atm [18:00] you have friends on the web, clubs on the app [18:01] it's weird. [18:01] oh [18:01] that is weird [18:01] goddamnit [18:01] clubs are new though [18:01] probably gonna migrate back to web soon [18:01] i have chrome-generated password [18:01] heh [18:01] can't you use both? [18:01] yes - you can, and I do [18:01] but I'm saying clubs will migrate back to the web probably] [18:01] is phone easier to be less distracted? [18:01] they have different advantages [18:02] the web always lets me hover [18:02] but has different challenges [18:02] the app has the "word match" things and the "make a sentence from these words" things [18:02] i like both, web and app; both good [18:02] those are not on the web [18:02] yeah [18:03] and the web has "get at least a point for trying to practice" [18:03] where the app makes you get 10 points or nothing for a practice. [18:03] but the app also has the chatbot conversations, web doesn't [18:03] *** dj_goku has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) [18:04] and now the app has clubs, but the web has friends [18:06] the app can also cache one or two *lessons* ahead for use at 30K feet [18:06] but none of the other features, like practice or chat, or I presume clubs. [18:07] oh really? how do you get it to cache those lessons? [18:08] airplanes should just have wifi :) [18:08] the practice seemed better than the lesson to me [18:22] * brycec is not a fan of our society's increased dependence upon always-on Internet and Internet-based resources. [18:39] it sorta just knows [18:39] there's no explicit access [18:39] I think the next few lessons are always cached [18:39] *** perlgod has quit IRC (Quit: bye) [18:41] google maps now does that too [19:01] *** perlgod has joined #arpnetworks [19:32] *** dj_goku has joined #arpnetworks