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maybe netbsd later
at some point, the VPS's would have different "hardware" configurations for different guests mercutio: they should all work with the same config
netbsd should work with virtio
which would be the main thing that may not work with an obscure OS.
but netbsd supporting being a xen domu, means it's very likely to support virtio raptelan: what's the deal with /dev/vda vs /dev/sda? mercutio: vda is virtio, sda is legacy
oh
actually raptelan: ok so ultimately I should figure out how to switch to vda mercutio: some of the newer virtual machines are using virtio-scsi too
which also show as sda raptelan: I think mine has virtio-scsi but shows as vda in debian 8
virtio-scsi is the hdd boot option mercutio: hmm raptelan: disk shows up as sda when booted off gentoo installation media mercutio: there's virtio-blk, and virtio-scsi to be confusing
ok
that's even stranger. raptelan: just want to configure things as optimally as possible mercutio: so yeh probably is virtio-scsi, and maybe the naming scheme changed and debian has ancient kernel.
the name itself shouldn't matter. raptelan: MBR partition table
I'm guessing there's no EFI... mercutio: yeah raptelan: bummer...ish mercutio: why did you want EFI? raptelan: the question is - why would I want BIOS? mercutio: it is simpler raptelan: it's just a more modern setup. bit of a pain though. mercutio: EFI can be useful on desktops
and laptops
but for virtual machines the benefits aren't really there raptelan: it's not for gain but consistency.
since that's the way everything is going
no worries mercutio: well KVM has some recent EFI support
i don't think it's enabled by default
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raptelan has quit IRC (Quit: Lost terminal) up_the_irons: Things are back to "sda" with virtio-scsi. Confusing, yes. nathani: 37 minutes till the leap second BryceBot: That's what she said!! nathani: BryceBot: me, or up_the_irons up_the_irons: BryceBot: no BryceBot: Oh, okay... I'm sorry. '37 minutes till the leap second' nathani: I win up_the_irons: Haha
😂
Do emojis work here... mercutio: unicode ones may?
☠
😂
it seems it may depend.. up_the_irons: I can see them on my phone
weechat-android mercutio: i could see that last one in putty but not with urxvt up_the_irons: Pretty sure won't show up on my laptop mercutio: oh
they look much better on android-weechat
they're different colours and bigger up_the_irons: Channel announcement: there's a new "Add Service" button in the Portal and blank VMs can be ordered on-demand (ones with an OS are coming soon)
Yeah weechat-android is pretty cool mercutio: how do you type the emoji on weechat-android?
😎
depends which keyboard.. up_the_irons: I just do it with the regular keyboard
Personally I use the Google keyboard
Which in just the last update went to shit mercutio: my keyboard seems to vary up_the_irons: It wants to mix the EN and DE keyboards now, and prediction is now all fucked. It guesses German words when I mean English and vice versa
Like why the fuck can't I turn that off mercutio: i'm normally using samsung keyboard
which isn't ideal
hmm samsung's prediction is bad too
the initial swype one i used was better up_the_irons: Google *was* good
😑 mercutio: it'd be kind of cool to have graphics support in terminals
still the terminal and remote thing, but being able to do things like show those emoji's :)
some kind of way to do real graphics wuold be even better nathani: I use Swiftkey Keyboard
only one language though so predictions are good
and it learns from your gmail, SMS etc up_the_irons: I was just looking into Swiftkey nathani: 👑👒🎩👖👕👔⌚👟👞👓💄🎓🔰⛑️
📒📔📚📙🔮🔦🔋🔌📜📗📓📑🎄🎃📛📰📖📖
should probably stop before I go overboard
anyknow know if there is an equivalent weechat-android app for iphone? mercutio: oh that may have been what i used before i think up_the_irons: I like all the emojis mercutio: i can't see those ones up_the_irons: I can see them all perfectly on Android mercutio: i can't see any of those ones in linux up_the_irons: I bet they'll all break when I check my terminal too BryceBot: That's what she said!! mercutio: they do indeed all show on my phone
the skull and cross bones works on pc though up_the_irons: I think it's an older one mercutio: apparently os x terminal supports coloured emoji RandalSchwartz: less than 10 minutes to the leap second!
I wonder how NTP handles that mercutio: clocks are a second off all of the time
i don't think it'll be any big deal -: up_the_irons agrees gizmoguy: the problem is having a minute with 61 seconds in it :)
anyone smearing this year? mercutio: not i
smearing is a stupid idea gizmoguy: smearing would mean I don't have to sit here on my laptop and babysit this... mercutio: happy 2017 gizmo gizmoguy: you too mercutio
hey you nznogging this year? up_the_irons: 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉 mercutio: wasn't planning to,. but who knows, where is it? gizmoguy: tauranga mercutio: hmm gizmoguy: I'm teaching a tutorial and providing the internet
well providing the l2/l3 infra
vibe are giving me bandwidth mercutio: i've never been to tauranga RandalSchwartz: google and facebook are smearing gizmoguy: and an ASN /22 /48 mercutio: no cgnat? :) up_the_irons: Nice gizmoguy: NAT64 and DNS64 though!
going to do an ipv6 only network mercutio: how much bandwidth are you getting? gizmoguy: only 1gbit
all done through Openvswitch+DPDK+linux+openflow too mercutio: ahh i thought vibe might be trying to show off up_the_irons: IPv6 only +++ gizmoguy: and i have allied-tellesis sponsoring openflow switches
to have a physical network too
2 mins
till the end of the world mercutio: nice up_the_irons: 😂😂😂 mercutio: y2k nothing happened gizmoguy: yeah 'cause people prepared for y2k@ RandalSchwartz: many things happened on y2k gizmoguy: I ignored leap second this year mercutio: is anything exciting happening at nznog this year? RandalSchwartz: need to read RISKS some time gizmoguy: just assumed our devs are smart enough to make our software survive it RandalSchwartz: talked about a lot of the breakage gizmoguy: mercutio: SDN SDN SDN
got 2 guys from google this year RandalSchwartz: most amusing was something that broke on jan 1 2001, because they hacked something for 2000 mercutio: hmm
i'm surprised i didn't hear about nznog earlier
won't it be in jan?
hmm there's a post from june saying it's jan 23 to jan 27 gizmoguy: [2410311.468298] Clock: inserting leap second 23:59:60 UTC mercutio: there was something on fb too RandalSchwartz: woo hoo! mercutio: hmm buuntu says that and arch doesn't up_the_irons: my VM is still up
Ceph monitors still happy mkb: I wonder when ntp will notice it's a second behind
Dec 31 18:05:19 x220 ntpd[20569]: adjusting clock frequency by 0.494154 to 5.917
858ppm
there's my answer gizmoguy: you don't have a leap second aware ntpd? mkb: no gizmoguy: that must get awkward mkb: I tried recording telephone time but apparently other people had the same idea up_the_irons: LOL
mercutio: I can only see your skull emoji in Linux; nothing else shows up
brycec: anything up with zeit right now? I'm getting clock skew warnings in Ceph, which use zeit
i've sync'd with other servers, but doesn't seem to help
...and now it's fixed (itself) ***: Lucifer333 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
Lucifer333 has joined #arpnetworks nathani: up_the_irons: perhaps related to the leap second at 0:00 UTC
Ceph needs accurate time correct to within 50 msec correct? up_the_irons: yeah most likely