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| raptelan | hello, about to install a custom O/S on a VPS originally configured for Debian 8 - anything I should be aware of or that would need set differently for different guest O/S's? | [11:02] |
| mike-burns | Nothing in general. Which OS are you installing? (Or do you mean "custom" as in you wrote it yourself?) | [11:06] |
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| raptelan | gentoo
maybe netbsd later at some point, the VPS's would have different "hardware" configurations for different guests | [11:28] |
| mercutio | they should all work with the same config
netbsd should work with virtio which would be the main thing that may not work with an obscure OS. but netbsd supporting being a xen domu, means it's very likely to support virtio | [11:37] |
| raptelan | what's the deal with /dev/vda vs /dev/sda? | [11:42] |
| mercutio | vda is virtio, sda is legacy
oh actually | [11:42] |
| raptelan | ok so ultimately I should figure out how to switch to vda | [11:42] |
| mercutio | some of the newer virtual machines are using virtio-scsi too
which also show as sda | [11:42] |
| raptelan | I think mine has virtio-scsi but shows as vda in debian 8
virtio-scsi is the hdd boot option | [11:42] |
| mercutio | hmm | [11:43] |
| raptelan | disk shows up as sda when booted off gentoo installation media | [11:43] |
| mercutio | there's virtio-blk, and virtio-scsi to be confusing
ok that's even stranger. | [11:43] |
| raptelan | just want to configure things as optimally as possible | [11:43] |
| mercutio | so yeh probably is virtio-scsi, and maybe the naming scheme changed and debian has ancient kernel.
the name itself shouldn't matter. | [11:44] |
| raptelan | MBR partition table
I'm guessing there's no EFI... | [11:45] |
| mercutio | yeah | [11:49] |
| raptelan | bummer...ish | [11:59] |
| mercutio | why did you want EFI? | [11:59] |
| raptelan | the question is - why would I want BIOS? | [11:59] |
| mercutio | it is simpler | [12:00] |
| raptelan | it's just a more modern setup. bit of a pain though. | [12:00] |
| mercutio | EFI can be useful on desktops
and laptops but for virtual machines the benefits aren't really there | [12:00] |
| raptelan | it's not for gain but consistency.
since that's the way everything is going no worries | [12:00] |
| mercutio | well KVM has some recent EFI support
i don't think it's enabled by default and is likely to have less testing | [12:01] |
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| up_the_irons | Things are back to "sda" with virtio-scsi. Confusing, yes. | [15:23] |
| nathani | 37 minutes till the leap second | [15:23] |
| BryceBot | That's what she said!! | [15:23] |
| nathani | BryceBot: me, or up_the_irons | [15:23] |
| up_the_irons | BryceBot: no | [15:23] |
| BryceBot | Oh, okay... I'm sorry. '37 minutes till the leap second' | [15:23] |
| nathani | I win | [15:24] |
| up_the_irons | Haha
😂 Do emojis work here... | [15:24] |
| mercutio | unicode ones may?
☠ 😂 it seems it may depend.. | [15:25] |
| up_the_irons | I can see them on my phone
weechat-android | [15:28] |
| mercutio | i could see that last one in putty but not with urxvt | [15:29] |
| up_the_irons | Pretty sure won't show up on my laptop | [15:29] |
| mercutio | oh
they look much better on android-weechat they're different colours and bigger | [15:30] |
| up_the_irons | Channel announcement: there's a new "Add Service" button in the Portal and blank VMs can be ordered on-demand (ones with an OS are coming soon)
Yeah weechat-android is pretty cool | [15:31] |
| mercutio | how do you type the emoji on weechat-android?
😎 depends which keyboard.. | [15:32] |
| up_the_irons | I just do it with the regular keyboard
Personally I use the Google keyboard Which in just the last update went to shit | [15:36] |
| mercutio | my keyboard seems to vary | [15:37] |
| up_the_irons | It wants to mix the EN and DE keyboards now, and prediction is now all fucked. It guesses German words when I mean English and vice versa
Like why the fuck can't I turn that off | [15:38] |
| mercutio | i'm normally using samsung keyboard
which isn't ideal hmm samsung's prediction is bad too the initial swype one i used was better | [15:38] |
| up_the_irons | Google *was* good
😑 | [15:39] |
| mercutio | it'd be kind of cool to have graphics support in terminals
still the terminal and remote thing, but being able to do things like show those emoji's :) some kind of way to do real graphics wuold be even better | [15:42] |
| nathani | I use Swiftkey Keyboard
only one language though so predictions are good and it learns from your gmail, SMS etc | [15:44] |
| up_the_irons | I was just looking into Swiftkey | [15:44] |
| nathani | 👑👒🎩👖👕👔⌚👟👞👓💄🎓🔰⛑️
📒📔📚📙🔮🔦🔋🔌📜📗📓📑🎄🎃📛📰📖📖 should probably stop before I go overboard anyknow know if there is an equivalent weechat-android app for iphone? | [15:45] |
| mercutio | oh that may have been what i used before i think | [15:47] |
| up_the_irons | I like all the emojis | [15:47] |
| mercutio | i can't see those ones | [15:47] |
| up_the_irons | I can see them all perfectly on Android | [15:47] |
| mercutio | i can't see any of those ones in linux | [15:48] |
| up_the_irons | I bet they'll all break when I check my terminal too | [15:48] |
| BryceBot | That's what she said!! | [15:48] |
| mercutio | they do indeed all show on my phone
the skull and cross bones works on pc though | [15:48] |
| up_the_irons | I think it's an older one | [15:51] |
| mercutio | apparently os x terminal supports coloured emoji | [15:52] |
| RandalSchwartz | less than 10 minutes to the leap second!
I wonder how NTP handles that | [15:53] |
| mercutio | clocks are a second off all of the time
i don't think it'll be any big deal | [15:53] |
| up_the_irons | up_the_irons agrees | [15:53] |
| gizmoguy | the problem is having a minute with 61 seconds in it :)
anyone smearing this year? | [15:54] |
| mercutio | not i
smearing is a stupid idea | [15:54] |
| gizmoguy | smearing would mean I don't have to sit here on my laptop and babysit this... | [15:54] |
| mercutio | happy 2017 gizmo | [15:55] |
| gizmoguy | you too mercutio
hey you nznogging this year? | [15:55] |
| up_the_irons | 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉 | [15:55] |
| mercutio | wasn't planning to,. but who knows, where is it? | [15:55] |
| gizmoguy | tauranga | [15:55] |
| mercutio | hmm | [15:55] |
| gizmoguy | I'm teaching a tutorial and providing the internet
well providing the l2/l3 infra vibe are giving me bandwidth | [15:55] |
| mercutio | i've never been to tauranga | [15:56] |
| RandalSchwartz | google and facebook are smearing | [15:56] |
| gizmoguy | and an ASN /22 /48 | [15:56] |
| mercutio | no cgnat? :) | [15:56] |
| up_the_irons | Nice | [15:56] |
| gizmoguy | NAT64 and DNS64 though!
going to do an ipv6 only network | [15:56] |
| mercutio | how much bandwidth are you getting? | [15:56] |
| gizmoguy | only 1gbit
all done through Openvswitch+DPDK+linux+openflow too | [15:57] |
| mercutio | ahh i thought vibe might be trying to show off | [15:57] |
| up_the_irons | IPv6 only +++ | [15:57] |
| gizmoguy | and i have allied-tellesis sponsoring openflow switches
to have a physical network too 2 mins till the end of the world | [15:57] |
| mercutio | nice | [15:58] |
| up_the_irons | 😂😂😂 | [15:58] |
| mercutio | y2k nothing happened | [15:58] |
| gizmoguy | yeah 'cause people prepared for y2k@ | [15:58] |
| RandalSchwartz | many things happened on y2k | [15:58] |
| gizmoguy | I ignored leap second this year | [15:58] |
| mercutio | is anything exciting happening at nznog this year? | [15:58] |
| RandalSchwartz | need to read RISKS some time | [15:58] |
| gizmoguy | just assumed our devs are smart enough to make our software survive it | [15:58] |
| RandalSchwartz | talked about a lot of the breakage | [15:58] |
| gizmoguy | mercutio: SDN SDN SDN
got 2 guys from google this year | [15:58] |
| RandalSchwartz | most amusing was something that broke on jan 1 2001, because they hacked something for 2000 | [15:59] |
| mercutio | hmm
i'm surprised i didn't hear about nznog earlier won't it be in jan? hmm there's a post from june saying it's jan 23 to jan 27 | [15:59] |
| gizmoguy | [2410311.468298] Clock: inserting leap second 23:59:60 UTC | [16:00] |
| mercutio | there was something on fb too | [16:00] |
| RandalSchwartz | woo hoo! | [16:01] |
| mercutio | hmm buuntu says that and arch doesn't | [16:02] |
| up_the_irons | my VM is still up
Ceph monitors still happy | [16:02] |
| mkb | I wonder when ntp will notice it's a second behind
Dec 31 18:05:19 x220 ntpd[20569]: adjusting clock frequency by 0.494154 to 5.917 858ppm there's my answer | [16:04] |
| gizmoguy | you don't have a leap second aware ntpd? | [16:05] |
| mkb | no | [16:05] |
| gizmoguy | that must get awkward | [16:05] |
| mkb | I tried recording telephone time but apparently other people had the same idea | [16:06] |
| up_the_irons | LOL | [16:10] |
| mercutio: I can only see your skull emoji in Linux; nothing else shows up | [16:15] | |
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| brycec: anything up with zeit right now? I'm getting clock skew warnings in Ceph, which use zeit
i've sync'd with other servers, but doesn't seem to help | [18:20] | |
| ...and now it's fixed (itself) | [18:25] | |
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| nathani | up_the_irons: perhaps related to the leap second at 0:00 UTC
Ceph needs accurate time correct to within 50 msec correct? | [20:04] |
| up_the_irons | yeah most likely | [20:05] |
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