plett: nathani: Well, "Fenster" would be German for window sjackso: dasblinkenlichtenundcomputerboxor ***: ziyourenxiang has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) qbit: any of you able to get to deftly.net? mercutio: nope
it just hangs loading
i can mtr it
it's a web page i assume? qbit: ya
i can see traffic coming in, so something I did busted it
like nginx isn't spawning workers brycec: s/64/640/
deftly.net works for me (granted it's 20 minutes later)
sorressean: There is a meter at graphs.arpnetworks.com
s/no any/know any/ qbit: :P
yeah, turns out if you chown the chroot dir, it gets pissy :D brycec: Aw that's a bummer. According to https://www.google.com/transparencyreport/safebrowsing/malware/ there is a non-zero number of infected ARP-hosted (AS 25795) customers. mercutio: enzu is big hah
hah, it's nothing compared to enzu. they may all be on one vps even
it sems tehy should scan more often ***: Crazie_ has joined #arpnetworks Crazie_: http://irclogger.arpnetworks.com/irclogger_log/arpnetworks?date=2010-09-12,Sun&raw=on
2010!!!!!!!!
6 years mike-burns: Is that a lot or a little? mhoran: I'd say medium. ***: Crazie_ has quit IRC ()
nesta has joined #arpnetworks staticsafe: nathani: https://www.dropbox.com/s/kfxu1mzh7dtm61s/2016-12-22%2017.30.52.jpg?dl=0 this arrived in the mail today BryceBot: Dropbox photo: "https://www.dropbox.com/s/kfxu1mzh7dtm61s/2016-12-22%2017.30.52.jpg?dl=0" brycec: "Fibe" they can't even spell fibre right in the letterhead
Or it's supposed to be their marketing name/trademark, which may actually be worse and more annoying. staticsafe: brycec: Fibe is the marketing term
brycec: in some areas 'Fibe' isn't even FTTH, maybe just FTTN and then copper to home brycec: FTTN is better than nothing, but...
"Fibe" just looks like a bad misspelling, dammit. staticsafe: indeed mkb: I don't understand why (well I do but...) they hype all this crap so much
I don't care about any of their equipment except the pieces that have to plug into mine staticsafe: we are the minority :P mkb: they can translate it to semaphore flags or IPoAC as long as my end still plugs into my equipment brycec: mkb: Whatever they can do to indicate their new service is better than their previous offerings, and if it uses "buzzwords" all the better. mkb: "better" brycec: And while "fibre" isn't exactly a buzzword, it has a lot of positive feelings for it
s/is better/is "superior"/ mkb: at&t's selling u-verse around here and it's the same damn thing BryceBot: <brycec> mkb: Whatever they can do to indicate their new service is "superior" than their previous offerings, and if it uses "buzzwords" all the better. mkb: 6mbps adsl 2
but this is new and fiberized staticsafe: but right now, Bell.ca's 1G/100M FTTH plan is about the same I'm paying for Rogers' 250/20 cable internet plan brycec: But still 6mbps? That's sub-broadband mkb: yes
really
two blocks from the CO brycec: So on the one hand, you have to sell your soul to Bell. On the other hand, you already sold your soul to Rogers. mkb: I think what's really going on is sbc^Wat&t is competing with bellsouth^Wat&t
they sell the same thing but the money goes to a different business unit staticsafe: now I'm on hold with Bell for credit validation
..fun
Rogers certainly has better hold music
done, installation is on the 31st
so happy new year to me ***: Lucifer333 has joined #arpnetworks
kevr has joined #arpnetworks nathani: staticsafe: cool
staticsafe: you would really enjoy the 1000meg down 100meg up as I am staticsafe: nathani: also the lower latency :D nathani: staticsafe: 64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=1 ttl=56 time=1.97 ms staticsafe: nathani: i can't wait till next friday nathani: did you get a good deal? staticsafe: nathani: not particularly, I didn't want to sign a contract, so just $129/month for 3 months, with the rental fees waived
only internet mercutio: that seems expensive to me staticsafe: welcome to Canada mercutio: how much is it to get a basic 50 megabit or something service staticsafe: I'm currently paying ~$140/month for 250/20 cable internets
http://www.bell.ca/Bell_Internet/Internet_access $80 for 50mbit plan mercutio: i got offrered some deal at 59.95/mo
for 50 megabit fibre
for 2 years staticsafe: yeah I can get it cheaper if I bundle and contract mercutio: on their web ste that is. hmm, only 10 megabit upload
ahh right
the 150/50 seems like sweet spot
oh
hangon, 250gb... staticsafe: yep.. mercutio: 150/50 unlimited or 1tb would be fine
going much higher than that you're unlikely to really take advantage of imo
like sending files over skype to friends or such arne't really likely to speed up
and downloads that will go faster are big things that yuo're not usually waiting on etc staticsafe: I like the 100mbit upload
for doing offsite backups mercutio: ahh staticsafe: (its not just just me using the connection as well, there are 3 other folks) mercutio: i have two connections that can do 30 megabit upload
so if i wanted to do offsite backup i'd just use the second connection
i don't find 30 megabit upload congests in normal usage for me though
1 megabit is really hard not to congest, 10 megabit is easy to congest, ime..
linux is finally adding bufferbloat fixes for wireless
so hopefully that'll get passed through to routers etc sometime staticsafe: :o mercutio: as with 1000/100 your next bottleneck could be wireless :) staticsafe: yep
also uh something is fucked on Rogers' network again - https://smokeping.staticsafe.ca/?target=staticsafe.modem mercutio: wow staticsafe: i opened a ticket on Monday looks like the issue is still ongoing mercutio: is it bad to everywhere? staticsafe: yep
I'm lagging as I type this mercutio: is it docsis 3? staticsafe: yep mercutio: is the "ftth" still cable? staticsafe: no mercutio: ahh cool
people keep calling "fast" internet fibre here staticsafe: https://www.dslreports.com/forum/r31118482-Yes-you-CAN-bypass-the-HomeHub-3000 for some details mercutio: well it's more like the single cable company in this country
they're offering gigabit on cable staticsafe: Rogers is doing that in some areas now
RFoG usually
DOCIS 3.1 rollout as well mercutio: this seems to be docsis 3.1
by the news article
there's been backlash here over gigabit plans
i mean the regulator wants no-one to advertise gigabit
because people are unlikely to get a full gigabit staticsafe: indeed mercutio: like the 100 megabit plans etc will be overprovisioned
and gigabit ehternet can't show gigabit on speedtest.net or such
i think it's silly myself.
it's better to just sell gigabit that does 970 megabit staticsafe: most people are going to be bottlenecked with older wireless anyways mercutio: yeah
i can only do like 300 megabit within my room
over wireless
gigabit wireless is a pipedream for most at the moment ***: Nahual has joined #arpnetworks staticsafe: my MBP is neg. to 600 Mbps ac sitting right under the AP mercutio: how many megabit can you pull through it? staticsafe: i can't really test internet speeds with the packet loss atm mercutio: my tablet surprised me with how fast it went with 433 megabit wireless ac
oh i mean with iperf or such
lan speeds staticsafe: do you have a command I can run? mercutio: yeah
iperf -s -i 1 on server
iperf -c <server ip> on client staticsafe: iperf isn't in macOS though, I just checked mercutio: it'll be on the macports thing
or compile from source
client sends to server, so tests upload
the server reports, as that's more accurate staticsafe: yeah hold on, I'm installing homebrew so I can get iperf nathani: I dont like that Bell Fibe still does PPPoE
so you lose some MTU and the IP changes frequently mercutio: it's hardware accelerated these days
oh
you should be thankful that you have an IP :) nathani: no v6 though mercutio: can you get a static ip? staticsafe: mercutio: https://paste.ee/p/w5HMC nathani: not sure mercutio: they should be able to run 1500 mtu with pppoe
yeah that's slow nathani: they should support 9000 mtu in this day and age mercutio: that's upload
try the other way around
as it'd still congest your 100 megabit uplaod :)
1508 mtu is fine
i really wanted 9000 mtu on the internet before
but it doesn't seem to be happening. :) staticsafe: mercutio: https://paste.ee/p/MrTtZ other way around mercutio: that's looking a lot better :)
you can probably improve thje speed by experimenting with random locations ***: ziyourenxiang has joined #arpnetworks mercutio: if you look at the -s -i 1
it will show you per second readouts
you can also set 0.5 on some vrsions
if you do -t 60 or such it'll do it for 60 seconds
but it means that youc an leave it running as you move around and watch your speeds vary staticsafe: https://paste.ee/p/DUV9t plugged it into ethernet via the Thunderbolt->Ethernet adapter :D mercutio: i found spinning around in my chair made a huge diff :)
well that's more like it :) staticsafe: good to see that the Intel NUC's NIC can hold its own
00:19.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation Ethernet Connection I218-V (rev 04)
i mean it should ***: Nahual has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)
Lucifer333 has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) nathani: I wanna paste my iperf result on 9000 mtu gigabit link
but I dont think I saved it, so I would have to redo the test mercutio: i got 20 gigabit+ on lan nathani: https://paste.ee/p/I6hYB
ethernet or infiniband? mercutio: infiniband :) nathani: my test is with no switches
just direct ethernet from PC to NAS
981 Mbits/sec
probably get more if I tweak some settings mercutio: disabling tcp_timestamps can reduce overhead slightly
more noticable at 1500 mtu than 9000 though nathani: 10.5 Gbits/sec
:-)
to and from nic on the same box
how you get 20 gbit between hosts is beyond me mercutio: maybe becuase less context switches?
i found samba was faster across computers than from windows to linux on same host though nathani: mercutio: did you test NFS ? mercutio: yeh
1.3gb/sec
for cached files
actualy that was a while ago
it may be faster now
i think it was before my cpu upgrade :)