[01:33] *** Lucifer333 has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) [01:44] nathani: Well, "Fenster" would be German for window [05:36] dasblinkenlichtenundcomputerboxor [09:11] *** ziyourenxiang has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) [09:35] any of you able to get to deftly.net? [09:36] nope [09:36] it just hangs loading [09:37] i can mtr it [09:37] it's a web page i assume? [09:39] ya [09:39] i can see traffic coming in, so something I did busted it [09:41] like nginx isn't spawning workers [09:58] s/64/640/ [09:58] deftly.net works for me (granted it's 20 minutes later) [09:59] sorressean: There is a meter at graphs.arpnetworks.com [09:59] s/no any/know any/ [10:01] :P [10:01] yeah, turns out if you chown the chroot dir, it gets pissy :D [11:00] Aw that's a bummer. According to https://www.google.com/transparencyreport/safebrowsing/malware/ there is a non-zero number of infected ARP-hosted (AS 25795) customers. [11:02] enzu is big hah [11:04] hah, it's nothing compared to enzu. they may all be on one vps even [11:05] it sems tehy should scan more often [11:33] *** Crazie_ has joined #arpnetworks [11:34] http://irclogger.arpnetworks.com/irclogger_log/arpnetworks?date=2010-09-12,Sun&raw=on [11:34] 2010!!!!!!!! [11:34] 6 years [11:40] Is that a lot or a little? [11:40] I'd say medium. [12:07] *** Crazie_ has quit IRC () [13:46] *** nesta has joined #arpnetworks [14:33] nathani: https://www.dropbox.com/s/kfxu1mzh7dtm61s/2016-12-22%2017.30.52.jpg?dl=0 this arrived in the mail today [14:34] Dropbox photo: "https://www.dropbox.com/s/kfxu1mzh7dtm61s/2016-12-22%2017.30.52.jpg?dl=0" [15:04] "Fibe" they can't even spell fibre right in the letterhead [15:05] Or it's supposed to be their marketing name/trademark, which may actually be worse and more annoying. [15:07] brycec: Fibe is the marketing term [15:07] brycec: in some areas 'Fibe' isn't even FTTH, maybe just FTTN and then copper to home [15:08] FTTN is better than nothing, but... [15:08] "Fibe" just looks like a bad misspelling, dammit. [15:08] indeed [15:08] I don't understand why (well I do but...) they hype all this crap so much [15:09] I don't care about any of their equipment except the pieces that have to plug into mine [15:09] we are the minority :P [15:09] they can translate it to semaphore flags or IPoAC as long as my end still plugs into my equipment [15:10] mkb: Whatever they can do to indicate their new service is better than their previous offerings, and if it uses "buzzwords" all the better. [15:10] "better" [15:10] And while "fibre" isn't exactly a buzzword, it has a lot of positive feelings for it [15:11] s/is better/is "superior"/ [15:11] at&t's selling u-verse around here and it's the same damn thing [15:11] mkb: Whatever they can do to indicate their new service is "superior" than their previous offerings, and if it uses "buzzwords" all the better. [15:11] 6mbps adsl 2 [15:11] but this is new and fiberized [15:11] but right now, Bell.ca's 1G/100M FTTH plan is about the same I'm paying for Rogers' 250/20 cable internet plan [15:11] But still 6mbps? That's sub-broadband [15:11] yes [15:11] really [15:12] two blocks from the CO [15:12] So on the one hand, you have to sell your soul to Bell. On the other hand, you already sold your soul to Rogers. [15:13] I think what's really going on is sbc^Wat&t is competing with bellsouth^Wat&t [15:14] they sell the same thing but the money goes to a different business unit [15:26] now I'm on hold with Bell for credit validation [15:26] ..fun [15:28] Rogers certainly has better hold music [15:32] done, installation is on the 31st [15:32] so happy new year to me [15:40] *** Lucifer333 has joined #arpnetworks [15:46] *** kevr has joined #arpnetworks [18:18] staticsafe: cool [18:18] staticsafe: you would really enjoy the 1000meg down 100meg up as I am [18:19] nathani: also the lower latency :D [18:26] staticsafe: 64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=1 ttl=56 time=1.97 ms [18:26] nathani: i can't wait till next friday [18:27] did you get a good deal? [18:28] nathani: not particularly, I didn't want to sign a contract, so just $129/month for 3 months, with the rental fees waived [18:28] only internet [18:29] that seems expensive to me [18:29] welcome to Canada [18:30] how much is it to get a basic 50 megabit or something service [18:30] I'm currently paying ~$140/month for 250/20 cable internets [18:30] http://www.bell.ca/Bell_Internet/Internet_access $80 for 50mbit plan [18:31] i got offrered some deal at 59.95/mo [18:31] for 50 megabit fibre [18:32] for 2 years [18:32] yeah I can get it cheaper if I bundle and contract [18:32] on their web ste that is. hmm, only 10 megabit upload [18:32] ahh right [18:33] the 150/50 seems like sweet spot [18:33] oh [18:33] hangon, 250gb... [18:33] yep.. [18:33] 150/50 unlimited or 1tb would be fine [18:34] going much higher than that you're unlikely to really take advantage of imo [18:34] like sending files over skype to friends or such arne't really likely to speed up [18:34] and downloads that will go faster are big things that yuo're not usually waiting on etc [18:35] I like the 100mbit upload [18:35] for doing offsite backups [18:36] ahh [18:37] (its not just just me using the connection as well, there are 3 other folks) [18:37] i have two connections that can do 30 megabit upload [18:37] so if i wanted to do offsite backup i'd just use the second connection [18:38] i don't find 30 megabit upload congests in normal usage for me though [18:38] 1 megabit is really hard not to congest, 10 megabit is easy to congest, ime.. [18:39] linux is finally adding bufferbloat fixes for wireless [18:39] so hopefully that'll get passed through to routers etc sometime [18:40] :o [18:40] as with 1000/100 your next bottleneck could be wireless :) [18:40] yep [18:42] also uh something is fucked on Rogers' network again - https://smokeping.staticsafe.ca/?target=staticsafe.modem [18:42] wow [18:42] i opened a ticket on Monday looks like the issue is still ongoing [18:43] is it bad to everywhere? [18:43] yep [18:43] I'm lagging as I type this [18:43] is it docsis 3? [18:43] yep [18:43] is the "ftth" still cable? [18:43] no [18:43] ahh cool [18:44] people keep calling "fast" internet fibre here [18:44] https://www.dslreports.com/forum/r31118482-Yes-you-CAN-bypass-the-HomeHub-3000 for some details [18:44] well it's more like the single cable company in this country [18:45] they're offering gigabit on cable [18:45] Rogers is doing that in some areas now [18:45] RFoG usually [18:45] DOCIS 3.1 rollout as well [18:46] this seems to be docsis 3.1 [18:46] by the news article [18:46] there's been backlash here over gigabit plans [18:46] i mean the regulator wants no-one to advertise gigabit [18:47] because people are unlikely to get a full gigabit [18:47] indeed [18:47] like the 100 megabit plans etc will be overprovisioned [18:47] and gigabit ehternet can't show gigabit on speedtest.net or such [18:48] i think it's silly myself. [18:48] it's better to just sell gigabit that does 970 megabit [18:49] most people are going to be bottlenecked with older wireless anyways [18:49] yeah [18:49] i can only do like 300 megabit within my room [18:49] over wireless [18:50] gigabit wireless is a pipedream for most at the moment [18:51] *** Nahual has joined #arpnetworks [18:53] my MBP is neg. to 600 Mbps ac sitting right under the AP [18:54] how many megabit can you pull through it? [18:55] i can't really test internet speeds with the packet loss atm [18:55] my tablet surprised me with how fast it went with 433 megabit wireless ac [18:55] oh i mean with iperf or such [18:55] lan speeds [18:55] do you have a command I can run? [18:55] yeah [18:55] iperf -s -i 1 on server [18:56] iperf -c on client [18:56] iperf isn't in macOS though, I just checked [18:56] it'll be on the macports thing [18:56] or compile from source [18:56] client sends to server, so tests upload [18:57] the server reports, as that's more accurate [18:58] yeah hold on, I'm installing homebrew so I can get iperf [19:00] I dont like that Bell Fibe still does PPPoE [19:01] so you lose some MTU and the IP changes frequently [19:01] it's hardware accelerated these days [19:01] oh [19:01] you should be thankful that you have an IP :) [19:01] no v6 though [19:01] can you get a static ip? [19:01] mercutio: https://paste.ee/p/w5HMC [19:01] not sure [19:01] they should be able to run 1500 mtu with pppoe [19:02] yeah that's slow [19:02] they should support 9000 mtu in this day and age [19:02] that's upload [19:02] try the other way around [19:02] as it'd still congest your 100 megabit uplaod :) [19:03] 1508 mtu is fine [19:03] i really wanted 9000 mtu on the internet before [19:03] but it doesn't seem to be happening. :) [19:04] mercutio: https://paste.ee/p/MrTtZ other way around [19:05] that's looking a lot better :) [19:05] you can probably improve thje speed by experimenting with random locations [19:05] *** ziyourenxiang has joined #arpnetworks [19:05] if you look at the -s -i 1 [19:06] it will show you per second readouts [19:06] you can also set 0.5 on some vrsions [19:06] if you do -t 60 or such it'll do it for 60 seconds [19:06] but it means that youc an leave it running as you move around and watch your speeds vary [19:06] https://paste.ee/p/DUV9t plugged it into ethernet via the Thunderbolt->Ethernet adapter :D [19:06] i found spinning around in my chair made a huge diff :) [19:07] well that's more like it :) [19:08] good to see that the Intel NUC's NIC can hold its own [19:08] 00:19.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation Ethernet Connection I218-V (rev 04) [19:09] i mean it should [20:28] *** Nahual has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) [20:45] *** Lucifer333 has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) [21:08] I wanna paste my iperf result on 9000 mtu gigabit link [21:09] but I dont think I saved it, so I would have to redo the test [21:09] i got 20 gigabit+ on lan [21:12] https://paste.ee/p/I6hYB [21:12] ethernet or infiniband? [21:13] infiniband :) [21:13] my test is with no switches [21:13] just direct ethernet from PC to NAS [21:14] 981 Mbits/sec [21:14] probably get more if I tweak some settings [21:23] disabling tcp_timestamps can reduce overhead slightly [21:23] more noticable at 1500 mtu than 9000 though [21:26] 10.5 Gbits/sec [21:26] :-) [21:27] to and from nic on the same box [21:27] how you get 20 gbit between hosts is beyond me [21:56] maybe becuase less context switches? [21:56] i found samba was faster across computers than from windows to linux on same host though [22:15] mercutio: did you test NFS ? [22:16] yeh [22:16] 1.3gb/sec [22:16] for cached files [22:16] actualy that was a while ago [22:17] it may be faster now [22:17] i think it was before my cpu upgrade :)