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   plett: mercutio, brycec: ESX before 4.1 was very much Linux with vmware's hypervisor bolted alongside it. They got told that distributing that was a GPL violation, so they launched ESXi which has no Linux parts in it
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   jpalmer: <u>brycec</u>: nathani  I stopped using YNAB because I kinda just sucked at noting all my expenses.   I buy a pack of gum,  I have to document that in YNAB.  I let a friend borrow $10 for lunch,  I have to document that..   it worked well,  for the couple months that I remembered to do all of the work.  but I just didn't have the time/patience/energy to continue doing it.
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   brycec: Also apparently a user of YNAB - qbit
   qbit: want to be, my bank dun sync with it
   <br> makes it a pita
   brycec: oh heh, sorry you mentioned and I thought that meant... Anyways.
   <br> (To be clear, /me is not a user of ynab.)
   nathani: Syslog on my ESXi box: 2016-12-14T21:51:01Z smartd: [warn] t10.ATA_____ST3160023AS_________________________________________5MT1K2NP: above TEMPERATURE threshold (38 &gt; 0)
   <br> do I need more cooling / perhaps another fan?
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   sjackso: That looks like it's complaining that the temp exceeds 0
   <br> in any event, 38 is a pretty reasonable temp for most parts
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   brycec: I agree with sjackso. And while 38 (I assume C) is a bit warm for a drive, it's perfectly serviceable.
   <br> (My home NAS, most of the drives are between 38 and 42 and that's just a room-temperature room...)
   <br> (Correction: my drives are between 36 and 47, mostly 42-45. Stupid winter heating.)
   sjackso: Just mount your server ahead of the heating intake!  (But behind the thermostat)
   mjp__: 38c is not that hot though? (for PC parts)
   BryceBot: That's what she said!!
   mjp__: thats only 1c hotter than human core temp :)
   mercutio: 15k sas drives often will run a lot hotter than that
   sjackso: hm, I never thought about that
   <br> but I guess I do recall seeing cooling fins on photos of them
   mercutio: ssds run cooler too
   brycec: And quieter
   <br> And faster :p
   mercutio: i'm surprised hard-disks didn't go 2.5" in a bigger way
   <br> like more desktops switching to 2.5"
   <br> and 2tb etc normal drives being more common in 2.5"
   <br> but the laptop drives often use a bit less power than the desktop drives
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   mercutio: i'm really curious what this public ntp pool order of magnitude traffic increase is
   <br> no-one seems to know yet
   nathani: <u>mercutio</u>: where are you observing this traffic increase?
   mercutio: nanog, and nznog
   <br> i have no personal experience
   <br> it just popped up today
   <br> <u>Re</u>: Recent NTP pool traffic increase
   <br> that'sthe subject on nanog
   <br> bbl
   nathani: vim isnt highlighting search terms for me
   <br> I have :set hlsearch configured
   <br> nvm vi and vim are 2 separate programs on my machine
   mercutio: is vi nvi?
   nathani: nvi?
   mercutio: uhh i'm not even sure which vi i have
   <br> it says ancient unix ports