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[06:36] <mkb> up_the_irons, http://portal.arpnetworks.com redirects to https://arpnetworks.com instead of https://portal.arpnetworks.com
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[20:19] <brycec> FYI mercutio, 4.2.2.2 doesn't return nxdomain either.
[20:20] <brycec> (You mentioned trying them yesterday when mkb_ complained that their ISP no longer returns nxdomain)
[20:20] <mercutio> oh since when?
[20:20] <mercutio> has that always been the case?
[20:20] <brycec> Don't think it's always been the case, but I first noticed it a few months ago
[20:20] <brycec> 8.8.4.4 still returns nxdomain at least, so that's something.
[20:21] <brycec> First google result is from a year ago https://www.reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/3hk05x/level_3_now_hijacking_nxdomain/
[20:22] <brycec> There's a HackerNews post from Jan 2014 claiming Level3 are hijacking nxdomain
[20:23] <brycec> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7119765
[20:23] <brycec> And that's the first mention I can find of it.
[20:48] <mercutio> i feel like there needs to be better dns benchmarks
[20:48] <mercutio> random sites from alexa top list isn't really a good benchmark for any real world relevance
[20:49] <mercutio> knot dns recursor has a cool shared cache thing.
[20:49] <mercutio> and you can stop/start it and maintain cache
[20:50] <mercutio> persistent cache on a dns recursor is something that used to be lacking; although i think there was one bad example