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[12:33] RandalSchwartz: outage? where? My ARP VPS and dedicated boxes are up and running uninterrupted. [12:35] both neil's machines and my machine had a reboot around 4am [12:53] ups/diesel? [12:54] *** mrsaint_ is now known as mrsaint [13:43] *** nesta has joined #arpnetworks [13:43] *** nesta has quit IRC (Client Quit) [13:44] mercutio: https://mydigitalpublication.com/publication/?i=347191#{%22issue_id%22:347191,%22numpages%22:1,%22page%22:1} [13:44] sorry for the horrible URL. but BBR is published now [13:44] wow [13:44] as well as faucet which is what I work on [13:44] i keep checking acm queue [13:44] it was quite recently i chcekde it last [13:44] did it just come out today? :) [13:44] someone from google just emailed me 1 min ago [13:45] so I suspect it went live in the past few hours [13:45] actually I'll see if I can find a PDF [13:45] says end of preview [13:45] yeah I'm getting that too [13:47] hrm. it's not published to dl.acm.org yet :( [13:48] and my dl.acm.org membership isnt working on mydigitalpublication.com [13:50] maybe it takes a little while extra [13:50] is acm queue in general good? [13:51] I'm not sure about queue [14:17] *** dne has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) [14:18] "Uptime: 83 days, 19:17:30" that's my dedi. No idea why your machines rebooted, RandalSchwartz, sorry. [14:19] *** dne has joined #arpnetworks [14:56] unlucky rack, maybe, except that neil's machines got booted too [15:03] RandalSchwartz: We sent maintenance notices 2 weeks ago, with a reminder 1 week ago, about this [15:03] ok... probably read it while half asleep then. :) [15:03] RandalSchwartz: Oh and if one of your VM's is on kvr05 (I think it is), we *did* have an unexpected reboot there. I'm sending an Outage Report today. Was too exhausted last night to do so (we had a crazy issue on another unrelated server, that was critical) [15:05] I think the kvr05 issues was the stupid watchdog 497 days bug, b/c that was about the uptime of kvr05 [15:11] yeah, I think I'm on 05 [15:11] I think one of neil's is also on 05. [15:11] yeah [15:12] mabel [15:12] since mabel is his oldest [15:12] nah, mabel is on kvr07 [15:12] ok [15:12] which we migrated last night [15:12] kvr07 is going away [15:12] ahh [15:12] is there a quick way to see which machine I'm in? [15:12] kvr05 will go away too, but that'll be at least a couple weeks away [15:12] Look at the "VNC Host" of your machine, in the Portal [15:13] that's the machine you're on [15:13] ahh [15:13] I can confirm one of your VM's is on kvr05, I see it now ;) [15:15] hmm. I don't see "VNC Host" anywhere on my portal. [15:15] oh wow [15:15] or do you mean something besides the website [15:15] like the thing I get on ssh? [15:16] nah it's there [15:16] i'm logged in as you [15:16] I'll PM you what I see [15:46] ahh, i'm on kct03 now, nice, i wonder if the machine will be faster [15:47] awyeah, does it feel faster? [15:47] lol [15:47] no clue. [15:48] i usually use installing packages on ubuntu to test performance heh [15:48] but other than that it's really if it feels sluggish or not [16:07] *** forgotten has joined #arpnetworks [16:12] Technically it's "VNC Server" (not Host) :P https://www.dropbox.com/s/pvvz25mtjd6pddt/screenshot_2016-10-18_16-11-58.png?dl=0 [16:12] Dropbox photo: "https://www.dropbox.com/s/pvvz25mtjd6pddt/screenshot_2016-10-18_16-11-58.png?dl=0" [16:22] cheeers :) [18:52] http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/309361-30-american-mega-trends-coming-start [18:52] second result for googling 'american megetrends' [18:52] I don't know what I expected... [18:52] haha what [18:53] coreboot or whatever it's called these days never seemed to end up supporting many motherboards [18:53] but all those bios things are pretty clumsy [18:54] i'm not sure if coreboot got forked or what with their fsf disbanding and infighting and so on [18:54] I haven't been able to figure that out [18:54] they removed all the firmware blobs [18:55] someone told me that and I said "you need those to make the hardware work" [18:55] https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Intel-Boot-Guard-Kills-Coreboot [18:55] hmm [18:56] that is a point, my chromebook has coreboto [18:56] I might have to stay on this thinkpad x220 forever [18:57] when i used to use DOS i wondered why no-one made a bios that had fast text i/o etc [18:57] like it's faster if you write to screen memory directly than use bios. but by way more than it shoudl be. [18:57] int 0x10 ah = 0x0e teletype output [18:58] which meant that it was normal for software to do direct screen writes rather than use bios [18:59] but until uefi, not much seemed to change with bios really [18:59] which was great [18:59] and now it's complicated beyond belief [18:59] well good and bda [18:59] and I still don't understand where the u came from [18:59] bad [18:59] universal i think [18:59] it didn't change, it was easy enough to write a bootloader that gets past it [18:59] i think efi was intel only? [19:00] yes I know what it stands for [19:00] but a decade ago I kept hearing about efi [19:00] yeh [19:00] and then actual hardware using it started shipping and it was suddently called uefi [19:00] it was on old intel boards in 2006 [19:00] like 5000 chipset or something [19:01] except x86 macs had/have efi [19:01] s5000pal, that's an example of efi board [19:02] 1792 is an interesting amount of RAM brycec [19:02] the x220 is a good machine [19:02] 7 256MB DIMMs? [19:02] I remember looking up how to write an efi "program" and finding out you need some giant toolkit [19:02] and just giving up [19:02] I'm still on my T520 and I think I'll just buy another if my current one breaks lol [19:02] I should look at what openbsd does; I'm sure they don't have the intel crap [19:03] https://github.com/coreboot/coreboot/tree/master/src/mainboard/lenovo/t520 [19:03] Firmware is firmware. [19:03] OpenBSD needs it just as much as anyone else. [19:03] https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTY4OTQ [19:04] you shouldn't need a giant "proprietary" toolkit to write a bootloader [19:04] so coreboots works on t520, but in 2014 didn't have suspend and resume [19:04] you shouldn't start in 16 bit mode either though mkb :) [19:04] so much about x86 is just wrong... [19:05] uefi does have things going for it [19:05] it's just too buggy and complicated. [19:05] mkb: i kind of thought there'd be more/better arm desktops by now [19:06] nathani: 1.5GB (1536MB) + 256MB [19:07] Makes more sense now [19:07] Was expecting to see 2048