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| RandalSchwartz | so - was that a power outage this morning? | [11:46] |
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| brycec | RandalSchwartz: outage? where? My ARP VPS and dedicated boxes are up and running uninterrupted. | [12:33] |
| RandalSchwartz | both neil's machines and my machine had a reboot around 4am | [12:35] |
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| mrsaint_ | ups/diesel? | [12:53] |
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| gizmoguy | mercutio: https://mydigitalpublication.com/publication/?i=347191#{%22issue_id%22:347191,%22numpages%22:1,%22page%22:1}
sorry for the horrible URL. but BBR is published now | [13:44] |
| mercutio | wow | [13:44] |
| gizmoguy | as well as faucet which is what I work on | [13:44] |
| mercutio | i keep checking acm queue
it was quite recently i chcekde it last did it just come out today? :) | [13:44] |
| gizmoguy | someone from google just emailed me 1 min ago
so I suspect it went live in the past few hours actually I'll see if I can find a PDF | [13:44] |
| mercutio | says end of preview | [13:45] |
| gizmoguy | yeah I'm getting that too
hrm. it's not published to dl.acm.org yet :( and my dl.acm.org membership isnt working on mydigitalpublication.com | [13:45] |
| mercutio | maybe it takes a little while extra
is acm queue in general good? | [13:50] |
| gizmoguy | I'm not sure about queue | [13:51] |
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| brycec | "Uptime: 83 days, 19:17:30" that's my dedi. No idea why your machines rebooted, RandalSchwartz, sorry. | [14:18] |
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| RandalSchwartz | unlucky rack, maybe, except that neil's machines got booted too | [14:56] |
| up_the_irons | RandalSchwartz: We sent maintenance notices 2 weeks ago, with a reminder 1 week ago, about this | [15:03] |
| RandalSchwartz | ok... probably read it while half asleep then. :) | [15:03] |
| up_the_irons | RandalSchwartz: Oh and if one of your VM's is on kvr05 (I think it is), we *did* have an unexpected reboot there. I'm sending an Outage Report today. Was too exhausted last night to do so (we had a crazy issue on another unrelated server, that was critical)
I think the kvr05 issues was the stupid watchdog 497 days bug, b/c that was about the uptime of kvr05 | [15:03] |
| RandalSchwartz | yeah, I think I'm on 05
I think one of neil's is also on 05. | [15:11] |
| up_the_irons | yeah | [15:11] |
| RandalSchwartz | mabel
since mabel is his oldest | [15:12] |
| up_the_irons | nah, mabel is on kvr07 | [15:12] |
| RandalSchwartz | ok | [15:12] |
| up_the_irons | which we migrated last night
kvr07 is going away | [15:12] |
| RandalSchwartz | ahh
is there a quick way to see which machine I'm in? | [15:12] |
| up_the_irons | kvr05 will go away too, but that'll be at least a couple weeks away
Look at the "VNC Host" of your machine, in the Portal that's the machine you're on | [15:12] |
| RandalSchwartz | ahh | [15:13] |
| up_the_irons | I can confirm one of your VM's is on kvr05, I see it now ;) | [15:13] |
| RandalSchwartz | hmm. I don't see "VNC Host" anywhere on my portal. | [15:15] |
| up_the_irons | oh wow | [15:15] |
| RandalSchwartz | or do you mean something besides the website
like the thing I get on ssh? | [15:15] |
| up_the_irons | nah it's there
i'm logged in as you I'll PM you what I see | [15:16] |
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| awyeah | ahh, i'm on kct03 now, nice, i wonder if the machine will be faster | [15:46] |
| mercutio | awyeah, does it feel faster? | [15:47] |
| awyeah | lol
no clue. | [15:47] |
| mercutio | i usually use installing packages on ubuntu to test performance heh
but other than that it's really if it feels sluggish or not | [15:48] |
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| brycec | Technically it's "VNC Server" (not Host) :P https://www.dropbox.com/s/pvvz25mtjd6pddt/screenshot_2016-10-18_16-11-58.png?dl=0 | [16:12] |
| BryceBot | Dropbox photo: "https://www.dropbox.com/s/pvvz25mtjd6pddt/screenshot_2016-10-18_16-11-58.png?dl=0" | [16:12] |
| mrsaint | cheeers :) | [16:22] |
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| mkb | http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/309361-30-american-mega-trends-coming-start
second result for googling 'american megetrends' I don't know what I expected... | [18:52] |
| mercutio | haha what
coreboot or whatever it's called these days never seemed to end up supporting many motherboards but all those bios things are pretty clumsy i'm not sure if coreboot got forked or what with their fsf disbanding and infighting and so on | [18:52] |
| mkb | I haven't been able to figure that out
they removed all the firmware blobs someone told me that and I said "you need those to make the hardware work" | [18:54] |
| mercutio | https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Intel-Boot-Guard-Kills-Coreboot
hmm that is a point, my chromebook has coreboto | [18:55] |
| mkb | I might have to stay on this thinkpad x220 forever | [18:56] |
| mercutio | when i used to use DOS i wondered why no-one made a bios that had fast text i/o etc
like it's faster if you write to screen memory directly than use bios. but by way more than it shoudl be. | [18:57] |
| mkb | int 0x10 ah = 0x0e teletype output | [18:57] |
| mercutio | which meant that it was normal for software to do direct screen writes rather than use bios
but until uefi, not much seemed to change with bios really | [18:58] |
| mkb | which was great | [18:59] |
| mercutio | and now it's complicated beyond belief
well good and bda | [18:59] |
| mkb | and I still don't understand where the u came from | [18:59] |
| mercutio | bad
universal i think | [18:59] |
| mkb | it didn't change, it was easy enough to write a bootloader that gets past it | [18:59] |
| mercutio | i think efi was intel only? | [18:59] |
| mkb | yes I know what it stands for
but a decade ago I kept hearing about efi | [19:00] |
| mercutio | yeh | [19:00] |
| mkb | and then actual hardware using it started shipping and it was suddently called uefi | [19:00] |
| mercutio | it was on old intel boards in 2006
like 5000 chipset or something | [19:00] |
| mkb | except x86 macs had/have efi | [19:01] |
| mercutio | s5000pal, that's an example of efi board | [19:01] |
| nathani | 1792 is an interesting amount of RAM brycec | [19:02] |
| up_the_irons | the x220 is a good machine | [19:02] |
| mkb | 7 256MB DIMMs?
I remember looking up how to write an efi "program" and finding out you need some giant toolkit and just giving up | [19:02] |
| up_the_irons | I'm still on my T520 and I think I'll just buy another if my current one breaks lol | [19:02] |
| mkb | I should look at what openbsd does; I'm sure they don't have the intel crap | [19:02] |
| mercutio | https://github.com/coreboot/coreboot/tree/master/src/mainboard/lenovo/t520 | [19:03] |
| mike-burns | Firmware is firmware.
OpenBSD needs it just as much as anyone else. | [19:03] |
| mercutio | https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTY4OTQ | [19:03] |
| mkb | you shouldn't need a giant "proprietary" toolkit to write a bootloader | [19:04] |
| mercutio | so coreboots works on t520, but in 2014 didn't have suspend and resume
you shouldn't start in 16 bit mode either though mkb :) | [19:04] |
| mkb | so much about x86 is just wrong... | [19:04] |
| mercutio | uefi does have things going for it
it's just too buggy and complicated. mkb: i kind of thought there'd be more/better arm desktops by now | [19:05] |
| brycec | nathani: 1.5GB (1536MB) + 256MB | [19:06] |
| nathani | Makes more sense now
Was expecting to see 2048 | [19:07] |
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