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awyeah: BTW, loving the Trello board.
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up_the_irons: awyeah: we're finding it awesome as well. I have several other boards for things internal to my life. Great way to organize.
Several cards were stuck at "2" votes (all tied) for a while. Then I put a link to the board on the Portal dashboard, and finally more votes came in and we have a clear winner on the next feature ("Portal: Automatic creation of new VMs")
mercutio: hmm who of those people in here
hmm, freebsd 11 is meant to come out again today. i wonder if it'll make it this time
sjackso: either it'll come out, or there will be some more crazy openssl patches that suddenly appear
or maybe both!
mercutio: they oughta shift to libressl
it's been pushed back twice
not sure what the other reason was
this time i'd guess the reason for delay would be mirrors not being up to date
(given that it doesn't seem to be on mirrors yet)
up_the_irons: this seems impractical but awesome at the same time: http://www.supermicro.com.tw/products/system/4U/6048/SSG-6048R-E1CR90L.cfm
sjackso: That weighs more than me
mercutio: i find even 20kg servers can feel heavy
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-: mercutio is heavier than net weight, but less than gross weight
mercutio: you can probably reduce weight a bit by taking disks out
up_the_irons: how strong are you feeling to rack it? :)
brycec: And that's when you call for a rack lift
mercutio: heh
that's cheating
but yeah, not really practical
http://gizmodo.com/galaxy-note-7-explodes-during-boarding-of-a-southwest-f-1787447287?utm_campaign=socialflow_lifehacker_facebook&utm_source=lifehacker_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow
damn, samsung are really struggling here...
so apparently the new galaxy note 7s are bad too
sjackso: I was flying last week and they kept making PA announcements about note 7s on the plane PAs before takeoff
mercutio: i would have liked a note 7 before the issues
too expensive for me though :)
sjackso: made me realize how bad the situation was for them
mercutio: well it seems that problems are happening pretty frequently
up_the_irons: mercutio: not very strong; toeshred does most of our racking. He's stronger than me . ;)
mercutio: yeah probably want rack lift then
apparently freebsd is getting delayed again
mjp_: all the good stuff is in 12.0 anyway ;)
i.e intel accelerated graphics for any pc made in the last few years heh
mercutio: heh, linux is far ahead for intel video
i'm getting really sick of ati support on linux
even my r9 290 is slow in linux for desktop use
and radeon 7750 is really slow at 4k
r9 290 and radeon 7750 are similar speed in linux for 2d actually
radeon 7750 is probably similar speed to onboard video
mjp_: FreeBSD should be in sync with Linux for intel graphics now
mercutio: with freebsd 12?
there's some exciting stuff coming from intel
and ati are kind of abandoning r9 290 and earlier it seems
mjp_: well -CURRENT or whatever branch they are working on
https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-x11/2016-August/017840.html
mercutio: like they've got a new driver for r9 285 and newer
which is like one newer than r9 290
and they're just adding legacy support for r9 290 etc, (that generation i think) but without accel
mjp_: ati have been promising good drivers for years now
mercutio: their open source drivers used to be better than the nvidia drivers
and ati cards fell under out customs limits
when nvidia didn't
gtx 970 probably is ok to buy now
but is only similar speed to r9 290 i think
and for fanless cards there are so few options
radeon 7750 is the fastest fanless card around last i knew. gddr5, multihead support etc
mjp_: my laptop (12 months old) has a gtx970M and it cant run with accelerated intel or nvidia graphics
mercutio: with what OS?
mjp_: freebsd doesnt properly support intel or nvidia optimus
mercutio: ahh with freebsd
there really needs to be more separation
mjp_: FreBSD, i tried to get it working but its such a pain in the ass and im not running some github branch of freebsd or pc-bsd
mercutio: so that the kernel stuff is seprarate from the normal core, and the normal core can be cross platform
yeah
just use arch linux :)
everything is current
mjp_: arch feels so hacky.. and its breaks lots
mercutio: i haven't had breakage in years
i've had more breakage with ubuntu than any other os haha
mjp_: i can wait ~6months for a stable version of whatever package they're shipping
mercutio: why does ubuntu have a default where if you reboot part way through the bootup it'll get stuck on the boot menu
i've had the most stability with openbsd of any OS :)
mjp_: depends if you also want functionality
mercutio: heh
mjp_: ms-dos 6.22 was pretty stable too
mercutio: i didn't find dos stable
one application could kill the whole system
mjp_: so no different than today then?
mercutio: i found os/2 stable though
but then i was using desqview on DOS :)
i actually have no idea what dos version i used
heh, X is pretty bad like that
up_the_irons: oh desqview
mercutio: desqview and qemm
up_the_irons: brings back memories
yup
and BBS' and doors
mercutio: and trying to get as much conventional memory as possible
and finding alternative tsr's to reduce memory
heh, yeah moving my bbs to os/2 was awesome
i could use a debugger
up_the_irons: haha yeah
mercutio: it used to be that if you pressed ctrl-break in turbo pascal it would crash the pc
BryceBot: That's what she said!!
up_the_irons: hahaha
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