[00:32] *** Seji has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) [00:59] *** Seji has joined #arpnetworks [01:29] *** Seji has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [01:32] *** Seji has joined #arpnetworks [02:33] *** Seji has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [02:37] *** Seji has joined #arpnetworks [06:55] *** abthorpet has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [08:12] *** fIorz has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) [12:06] Heads up user_8484 (779da9e6@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.119.157.169.230) is going around spamming channels [12:29] *** mhoran sets mode: +b *!*@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.119.157.169.230 [12:56] heh good plan, mhoran ] [13:08] smart thinking :) [13:53] :) [13:59] whee, irssi security patch [13:59] oh wow [13:59] is that related to the spamming? [13:59] https://irssi.org/2016/09/21/irssi-0.8.20-released/ [14:00] two remote crash issues [14:00] oh [14:00] i thought it may be some exploit :) [14:00] not sure if it was related, I heard about it via wallops a few minutes ago [14:00] well remote crash if doesn't have code execution doesn't worry that much in an irc client :) [14:00] 'Remote crash and heap corruption. Remote code execution seems difficult since only Nuls are written.' [14:01] cool. i use weechat anyway :) [14:02] read https://irssi.org/security/irssi_sa_2016.txt does not convince me that it would be impossible to get remote execution, but it's easier to upgrade than to worry about that :P [14:02] I should probably move to weechat, but the muscle memory for irssi was hard-won. [14:03] i used ircii-epic4 for aegs. [14:03] Author of the bug (in another channel) describes it as a possible RCE [14:03] <3 weechat [14:03] i hate my weechat colours [14:03] i just know that trying to fix them is likely to be a huge time sink [14:03] I changed all my weechat colors. [14:04] but other than that weechat is nice [14:04] Huge time sink; agreed. [14:04] I'm mostly retrained too, though sometimes I still try calling weechat buffers "windows" and using my old /aliases [14:04] mike-burns: how long did you spend? :) [14:04] About six hours. [14:04] Now that it's done: totally worth it. While I did it: huge waste of time. [14:04] there was some study done somewhere about allowing users to change desktop backgrounds, and how much productivity they lost. [14:05] I'm on an anti-color kick. So, that's a thing. [14:05] but it's really hard to know how much time is used on fiddling, and whether it helps or makes things worse. [14:05] i changed all my weechat colors too. got 256 color mode going. great for the nick list. ;) [14:06] It made me happier, which for IRC is the actual metric I measure. [14:06] like if users change their desktop backgrounds frequently, would they actually be doing productive work instead. [14:06] we can't all be productive 100% of the time etc [14:06] oh i don't have a nick list [14:06] it was shown that changing your syntax highlighting periodically when coding was good for productivity [14:07] up_the_irons: tweaking, or completely different? [14:07] i find syntax hilighting needs to be really soft for me or i get distracted [14:07] That's what she said!! [14:07] w/e makes you happy [14:08] the point was, changing like every month or so kept things "fresh" and therefore one was more alert [14:08] hmm [14:08] maybe that's a good reason to change weechat colours :) [14:08] i have a colorhug [14:08] haha [14:09] i have been meaning to try changing my color temperature with it down a bit to see what difference that makes. [14:10] apparently things like redshift, flux etc don't really change color temperatures well. they just warp all of the colours. [14:10] but you could calibrate screen differently, and show different ones at different times. [14:10] higher color temperatures will wake you up more, and lower will put you to sleep more afaik [14:11] although sleep isn't necessarily a bad thing. in that it can create more creativity too. [14:14] flux isn't prety (you can't use it while looking at photos, etc) but it's pretty nice for the odd late-night or early-morning screen time [14:14] *** mkb has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [14:15] *** sjackso has quit IRC (Quit: new irssi) [14:15] *** sjackso has joined #arpnetworks [14:16] sjackso: it's not as good as it could be... [14:16] i've been using redshift which is also bad [14:16] * mercutio goes back to colour calibration [14:16] that'll force me to have to reprofile another temp [14:16] redshift/flux don't work properly with icc profiles [14:16] ugh, what does? [14:17] well if you calibrate to different temperatures using a colorimeter [14:17] it should be better [14:17] colorhug is open source one [14:17] * sjackso has scar tissue from trying to make a Qt app generate icc-conforming .png outputs [14:17] heh [14:18] yeah colour issues are terrible [14:18] i'm hoping with the new high colour screens coming out that things may get a little better [14:18] it seems strange that we've been stuck at 24bit colour for so long [14:19] a related read re: color issues are terrible: https://hsivonen.fi/png-gamma/ [14:19] *** Seji has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) [14:19] never fails to make me facepalm [14:19] i hated lcd monitors for ages [14:20] because the colours always looked bad [14:20] but old crts start to look bad too [14:20] and they're just so bulky [14:22] erk this sounds horrible sjackso [14:23] all of that has to do with a color correction technique that precedes embedding icc colorspaces in the png files (part of my problem was that Qt had no API for that) [14:24] the outcome was that people were saving images out of my program that didn't look like what was on the screen, and fixing that in a cross-platform way was a pain [14:25] *** vom has quit IRC (Quit: leaving) [14:26] mercutio, my mental model of you is that you're a sysadmin who fixes my VPS if it has a problem; seeing you talk about calibrating your monitor obsessively conflicts with my model. Do you do graphics work specifically, or are you just interested in color? :) [14:26] sjackso: i've always cared about colour to a degree :) [14:27] i don't do graphics work. but i don't like lack lustre or wrong colours :) [14:27] i used to fiddle with colours in text mode even [14:28] maybe i'm just sensitive. but back when dos had 16 colors, all of which were terrible at mixing, and high contrast, i thought that we needed smoother colours with less abrasions [14:28] and of course vga lets you change that palette.. [14:30] you do have an interesting point about whether sys admins should care about colours though. [14:31] as it's usually assumed that sysadmin type things are very logical and left-brained, and that colour perception is more right-brained, and creative [14:32] Well, people who care should go on caring, whether or not their jobs demand it. :) But yeah, the stereotype runs the other way. [14:32] but pretty much all computer stuff gets to such a high complexity that it's way past pure logic. [14:32] if you were in "pure logic" you would be way way overwhelmed. [14:32] you need a degree of holistic thinking. [14:33] also i have programming background. [14:33] which tends to not stereotype quite so hard into straight logic [14:33] everyone knows programmers are illogical :) [14:34] *** gizmoguy has quit IRC (Quit: leaving) [14:34] because the computer can be logical! [14:34] as a right-ish-brained programmer, I'll drink to that [14:34] really programming is a whole brain thing. [14:35] you need to mix left/right brain. which is one of the reasons it's hard for some people [14:36] *** gizmoguy has joined #arpnetworks [14:39] my left and right brain are often thoroughly mixed. [14:49] i wonder how to test such things [14:50] well without probes :) [14:50] brain-sidedness? [14:50] *** mkb has joined #arpnetworks [14:50] sjackso: actively [14:50] it's acutally more complicated than left/right brain, as there's the different parts of the brain that can be activated. [14:51] I remember there being a questionnaire that I used in a college psych class, to make an estimate of hemisphere dominance based on your own experience and behavior [14:51] not a really precise method though [14:51] most of that kind of thing gives me 50/50 [14:51] or something like that. so it doesn't help :) [14:51] but alternating between left/right is different from using both at once [14:52] using both at once gives that "flow" feeling [14:56] https://memorado.com/yourbetterhalf [14:56] this test looks surprisingly good, it's more like 70/30 where it shoudl be :) [16:18] *** staticsafe has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.5) [16:44] *** staticsafe has joined #arpnetworks [17:08] *** pjs has quit IRC (Quit: EPIC5-1.1.2[1638] - amnesiac : brb) [17:25] *** pjs has joined #arpnetworks [18:13] *** Nahual has joined #arpnetworks [19:12] *** Nahual has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) 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