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| brycec | Heads up user_8484 (779da9e6@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.119.157.169.230) is going around spamming channels | [12:06] |
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| brycec | heh good plan, mhoran ] | [12:56] |
| mercutio | smart thinking :) | [13:08] |
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| up_the_irons | :) | [13:53] |
| sjackso | whee, irssi security patch | [13:59] |
| mercutio | oh wow
is that related to the spamming? | [13:59] |
| sjackso | https://irssi.org/2016/09/21/irssi-0.8.20-released/
two remote crash issues | [13:59] |
| mercutio | oh
i thought it may be some exploit :) | [14:00] |
| sjackso | not sure if it was related, I heard about it via wallops a few minutes ago | [14:00] |
| mercutio | well remote crash if doesn't have code execution doesn't worry that much in an irc client :) | [14:00] |
| sjackso | 'Remote crash and heap corruption. Remote code execution seems difficult since only Nuls are written.' | [14:00] |
| mercutio | cool. i use weechat anyway :) | [14:01] |
| sjackso | read https://irssi.org/security/irssi_sa_2016.txt does not convince me that it would be impossible to get remote execution, but it's easier to upgrade than to worry about that :P
I should probably move to weechat, but the muscle memory for irssi was hard-won. | [14:02] |
| mercutio | i used ircii-epic4 for aegs. | [14:03] |
| brycec | Author of the bug (in another channel) describes it as a possible RCE
<3 weechat | [14:03] |
| mercutio | i hate my weechat colours
i just know that trying to fix them is likely to be a huge time sink | [14:03] |
| mike-burns | I changed all my weechat colors. | [14:03] |
| mercutio | but other than that weechat is nice | [14:04] |
| mike-burns | Huge time sink; agreed. | [14:04] |
| brycec | I'm mostly retrained too, though sometimes I still try calling weechat buffers "windows" and using my old /aliases | [14:04] |
| mercutio | mike-burns: how long did you spend? :) | [14:04] |
| mike-burns | About six hours.
Now that it's done: totally worth it. While I did it: huge waste of time. | [14:04] |
| mercutio | there was some study done somewhere about allowing users to change desktop backgrounds, and how much productivity they lost. | [14:04] |
| mike-burns | I'm on an anti-color kick. So, that's a thing. | [14:05] |
| mercutio | but it's really hard to know how much time is used on fiddling, and whether it helps or makes things worse. | [14:05] |
| up_the_irons | i changed all my weechat colors too. got 256 color mode going. great for the nick list. ;) | [14:05] |
| mike-burns | It made me happier, which for IRC is the actual metric I measure. | [14:06] |
| mercutio | like if users change their desktop backgrounds frequently, would they actually be doing productive work instead.
we can't all be productive 100% of the time etc oh i don't have a nick list | [14:06] |
| up_the_irons | it was shown that changing your syntax highlighting periodically when coding was good for productivity | [14:06] |
| mercutio | up_the_irons: tweaking, or completely different?
i find syntax hilighting needs to be really soft for me or i get distracted | [14:07] |
| BryceBot | That's what she said!! | [14:07] |
| up_the_irons | w/e makes you happy
the point was, changing like every month or so kept things "fresh" and therefore one was more alert | [14:07] |
| mercutio | hmm
maybe that's a good reason to change weechat colours :) i have a colorhug | [14:08] |
| up_the_irons | haha | [14:08] |
| mercutio | i have been meaning to try changing my color temperature with it down a bit to see what difference that makes.
apparently things like redshift, flux etc don't really change color temperatures well. they just warp all of the colours. but you could calibrate screen differently, and show different ones at different times. higher color temperatures will wake you up more, and lower will put you to sleep more afaik although sleep isn't necessarily a bad thing. in that it can create more creativity too. | [14:09] |
| sjackso | flux isn't prety (you can't use it while looking at photos, etc) but it's pretty nice for the odd late-night or early-morning screen time | [14:14] |
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| mercutio | sjackso: it's not as good as it could be...
i've been using redshift which is also bad mercutio goes back to colour calibration that'll force me to have to reprofile another temp redshift/flux don't work properly with icc profiles | [14:16] |
| sjackso | ugh, what does? | [14:16] |
| mercutio | well if you calibrate to different temperatures using a colorimeter
it should be better colorhug is open source one | [14:17] |
| sjackso | sjackso has scar tissue from trying to make a Qt app generate icc-conforming .png outputs | [14:17] |
| mercutio | heh
yeah colour issues are terrible i'm hoping with the new high colour screens coming out that things may get a little better it seems strange that we've been stuck at 24bit colour for so long | [14:17] |
| sjackso | a related read re: color issues are terrible: https://hsivonen.fi/png-gamma/ | [14:19] |
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| sjackso | never fails to make me facepalm | [14:19] |
| mercutio | i hated lcd monitors for ages
because the colours always looked bad but old crts start to look bad too and they're just so bulky erk this sounds horrible sjackso | [14:19] |
| sjackso | all of that has to do with a color correction technique that precedes embedding icc colorspaces in the png files (part of my problem was that Qt had no API for that)
the outcome was that people were saving images out of my program that didn't look like what was on the screen, and fixing that in a cross-platform way was a pain | [14:23] |
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| sjackso | mercutio, my mental model of you is that you're a sysadmin who fixes my VPS if it has a problem; seeing you talk about calibrating your monitor obsessively conflicts with my model. Do you do graphics work specifically, or are you just interested in color? :) | [14:26] |
| mercutio | sjackso: i've always cared about colour to a degree :)
i don't do graphics work. but i don't like lack lustre or wrong colours :) i used to fiddle with colours in text mode even maybe i'm just sensitive. but back when dos had 16 colors, all of which were terrible at mixing, and high contrast, i thought that we needed smoother colours with less abrasions and of course vga lets you change that palette.. you do have an interesting point about whether sys admins should care about colours though. as it's usually assumed that sysadmin type things are very logical and left-brained, and that colour perception is more right-brained, and creative | [14:26] |
| sjackso | Well, people who care should go on caring, whether or not their jobs demand it. :) But yeah, the stereotype runs the other way. | [14:32] |
| mercutio | but pretty much all computer stuff gets to such a high complexity that it's way past pure logic.
if you were in "pure logic" you would be way way overwhelmed. you need a degree of holistic thinking. also i have programming background. which tends to not stereotype quite so hard into straight logic everyone knows programmers are illogical :) | [14:32] |
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| mercutio | because the computer can be logical! | [14:34] |
| sjackso | as a right-ish-brained programmer, I'll drink to that | [14:34] |
| mercutio | really programming is a whole brain thing.
you need to mix left/right brain. which is one of the reasons it's hard for some people | [14:34] |
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| RandalSchwartz | my left and right brain are often thoroughly mixed. | [14:39] |
| mercutio | i wonder how to test such things
well without probes :) | [14:49] |
| sjackso | brain-sidedness? | [14:50] |
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| mercutio | sjackso: actively
it's acutally more complicated than left/right brain, as there's the different parts of the brain that can be activated. | [14:50] |
| sjackso | I remember there being a questionnaire that I used in a college psych class, to make an estimate of hemisphere dominance based on your own experience and behavior
not a really precise method though | [14:51] |
| mercutio | most of that kind of thing gives me 50/50
or something like that. so it doesn't help :) but alternating between left/right is different from using both at once using both at once gives that "flow" feeling https://memorado.com/yourbetterhalf this test looks surprisingly good, it's more like 70/30 where it shoudl be :) | [14:51] |
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