***: dj_goku has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) ant: mercutio: deutsche telekom is still (one of?) the biggest isps in germany and users might actually blame cf instead of dt for slow connections
mercutio: the problem is also that the other major isps in germany also sucks, e.g. kabel deutschland has weekly (short) outages and several times a year bigger outages and also much congestion in their access layer during peek hours mercutio: damn. yeah, it was more idealism than anything else :)
they'd have to be pretty big to get away with it
they're getting bigger and bigger though. plett: That cloudflare article isn't being entirely accurate. They are saying that, because they peer 60% of their traffic in Europe, their cost is only the remaining 40%. This only works if peering has zero cost, which it doesn't ant: mercutio: a friend of mine told me that he couldn't watch youtube with his dt internet connection without buffering but when routes everything trough a vpn to some other country it works fine... (peering between dt and google is a huge problem because google doesn't want to pay dt for transit) mercutio: hmm, if google can't move theem, not much hope for cf.
it's good that google are doing that in a way though :) ant: mercutio: also this is pretty pervert: https://wiki.hetzner.de/index.php/Double_Paid_Traffic/en mercutio: well there are fixed costs, and variable costs with bandwidth often plett.
the cost of 10gbe peering is generally pretty cheap though.
wow
that seems a sensible way to go in some ways. BryceBot: That's what she said!! mercutio: i mean to charge customers extra if they want to have more direct connectivity
have you guys seen the nytimes thing about wechat?
http://www.nytimes.com/video/technology/100000004574648/china-internet-wechat.html ant: it think it's the most sensible thing hetzner can do, but i still think it sucks that dt is holding their clients hostage mercutio: yeah
but if google can't change them i don't know who can fIorz_: bad customer experience? ***: Guest67132 has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
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Guest79556 is now known as sjackso brycec: BryceBot: no BryceBot: Oh, okay... I'm sorry. 'that seems a sensible way to go in some ways.' sjackso: does brycebot simply throw that line out at random, or is there some kind of pattern it triggers on? brycec: sjackso: Bayesian learning, actually.
twss? BryceBot: That was 10.39% what she said. 'sjackso: Bayesian learning, actually.' brycec: I like it hard
twss? BryceBot: That was 50% what she said. 'I like it hard' brycec: twss BryceBot: Okay! twss! 'I like it hard' brycec: twss? BryceBot: That was 50% what she said. 'I like it hard' brycec: stupid bot :p
But you get the idea.
It's a PHP implementation of this https://github.com/lsblakk/scottbot
(not directly, but the idea of it)
This is the spiffiest speedtest I've seen... ever. /Lots/ of details, and no flash. https://sourceforge.net/speedtest/ ***: Squillis_ is now known as Squillis nathani: brycec: no way to easily share results though brycec: Then you'll just have to trust me when I say I have a 12Tbps connection :D
It's a bummer, but worth it for the detailed results. ***: dj_goku_ has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)
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