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| ant | mercutio: deutsche telekom is still (one of?) the biggest isps in germany and users might actually blame cf instead of dt for slow connections
mercutio: the problem is also that the other major isps in germany also sucks, e.g. kabel deutschland has weekly (short) outages and several times a year bigger outages and also much congestion in their access layer during peek hours | [01:08] | |
| mercutio | damn. yeah, it was more idealism than anything else :)
they'd have to be pretty big to get away with it they're getting bigger and bigger though. | [01:10] | |
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| plett | That cloudflare article isn't being entirely accurate. They are saying that, because they peer 60% of their traffic in Europe, their cost is only the remaining 40%. This only works if peering has zero cost, which it doesn't | [01:40] | |
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| ant | mercutio: a friend of mine told me that he couldn't watch youtube with his dt internet connection without buffering but when routes everything trough a vpn to some other country it works fine... (peering between dt and google is a huge problem because google doesn't want to pay dt for transit) | [02:04] | |
| mercutio | hmm, if google can't move theem, not much hope for cf.
it's good that google are doing that in a way though :) | [02:05] | |
| ant | mercutio: also this is pretty pervert: https://wiki.hetzner.de/index.php/Double_Paid_Traffic/en | [02:05] | |
| mercutio | well there are fixed costs, and variable costs with bandwidth often plett.
the cost of 10gbe peering is generally pretty cheap though. wow that seems a sensible way to go in some ways. | [02:06] | |
| BryceBot | That's what she said!! | [02:09] | |
| mercutio | i mean to charge customers extra if they want to have more direct connectivity
have you guys seen the nytimes thing about wechat? http://www.nytimes.com/video/technology/100000004574648/china-internet-wechat.html | [02:09] | |
| ant | it think it's the most sensible thing hetzner can do, but i still think it sucks that dt is holding their clients hostage | [02:11] | |
| mercutio | yeah
but if google can't change them i don't know who can | [02:11] | |
| fIorz_ | bad customer experience? | [02:13] | |
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| brycec | BryceBot: no | [08:54] | |
| BryceBot | Oh, okay... I'm sorry. 'that seems a sensible way to go in some ways.' | [08:54] | |
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| sjackso | does brycebot simply throw that line out at random, or is there some kind of pattern it triggers on? | [09:24] | |
| brycec | sjackso: Bayesian learning, actually.
twss? | [09:36] | |
| BryceBot | That was 10.39% what she said. 'sjackso: Bayesian learning, actually.' | [09:36] | |
| brycec | I like it hard
twss? | [09:37] | |
| BryceBot | That was 50% what she said. 'I like it hard' | [09:37] | |
| brycec | twss | [09:37] | |
| BryceBot | Okay! twss! 'I like it hard' | [09:37] | |
| brycec | twss? | [09:37] | |
| BryceBot | That was 50% what she said. 'I like it hard' | [09:37] | |
| brycec | stupid bot :p
But you get the idea. It's a PHP implementation of this https://github.com/lsblakk/scottbot (not directly, but the idea of it)
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| nathani | brycec: no way to easily share results though | [13:55] | |
| brycec | Then you'll just have to trust me when I say I have a 12Tbps connection :D
It's a bummer, but worth it for the detailed results. | [13:56] | |
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