#arpnetworks 2016-08-21,Sun

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nathanihttps://blog.cloudflare.com/bandwidth-costs-around-the-world/ [19:32]
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mercutiothey don't split out australia and new zealand :( [22:44]
nathaniI found it interesting that they manage to peer 100% in the middle east [22:45]
mercutioit's a bit complicated there
ithink some of the middle east providers don't have a pop in middle east
and just push their traffic to europe
around that kind of area some traffic has terrible routes
asia<->europe etc is often much worse than it should be
to me africa at 90% is actually more interesting.
as more providers, and they seem more willing to make things better
[22:45]
nathaniwhy did they say Germany was an exception when it came to peering [22:47]
mercutioand more population
i didn't notice that
europe was fine to my mind :)
oh the main provider there doesn't peer
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nathaniI would really like to know what their 10 unit standard converts to $ [22:48]
mercutioi think the perhaps is redundant.
hard to know :)
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nathaninda's and all [22:48]
mercutioi'd like to see peering become more popular
i kind of want to see gigabit to the home
with low pings between people in the same city at least across providers.
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fIorz_nathani: not Germany, the incumbent in Germany, aka Deutsche Telekom AG [22:49]
nathaniala google fiber [22:49]
mercutioyeah, but i want to see multiple providers with similar deals.
and if it only does 100 megabit internationally so be it
but if you can at least get gigabit to your neighbour
even though they're on a different provider, then that'd be great.
and with peering disputes etc, often performance can be rather subpar.
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nathanifIorz_: ahh skipped over the incumbent for some reason when I read that [22:50]
mercutiowe're starting to get fibre here.
200 megabit down seems to be common
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fIorz_DTAG are known for the terrible connectivity that they offer their (DSL, mostly) customers because they don't peer openly [22:51]
mercutioand it's provider agnostic for transit ec.
etc
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nathanithis was also interesting: six networks represent less than 6% of the traffic but nearly 50% of our bandwidth costs. [22:52]
mercutiocloudflare's getting big enough that they could consider giving worse performance to some networks...
ie stop paying for transit to the expensive ones
send from where it's cheap for them
send to DT via cogent :)
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