did it remember a failure? Seems like it (brb) you can route delete -host usually route -n get 192.168.1.1 can be revealing (If you're curious, pay attention to the MAC addresses http://sprunge.us/QijW ) but yes, 'No route to host' generally can also mean pf is blocking (unless one has tried with pfctl -d ;)) Jeez toddf isn't it about 2am there? You're up late. brycec: joys of a family and 'getting stuff done' generally means waiting till everybody else is asleep you're up past midnight too, bryce :) mercutio: by 13 minutes :P heh (my fiancee just got home from work) i'm trying to go to bed at 9:30 pm now means i get up really early which seems even better than being up late for me good sleep habits .. pipe dream for now .. I get up early with the older two, am up late helping mamma feed the younger one .. ;-( toddf: micro nap? why the hell is FreeBSD sending the ICMP response to a different MAC than it was received from?? The ARP table is correct, routing looks fine. Hmm mercutio: that would cut into my supposed work time during the day .. otherwise I'm 100% on the go wrangling kids or other bits of life ;-( .. family needs a lifehack badly, just need to find the fuel and direction .. toddf: catch 22 brycec: io clash? ip arping works on linux i don't know if it's available on bsd arping program, rather than task. Problem solved, was a pf rule on the FreeBSD side woot so tcpdump operates before pf that seems kind of lame actually for incoming traffic that'd be better Yeah I love that fact about it "If I see it in tcpdump then I know the packet at least made it this far, and to start digging into pf" etc etc In this case, FreeBSD side had a "(reply-to $ARP's_GW)" in the rule allowing that private traffic Well, sorry for the noise. noise is good things have been quiet recently ...too quiet... mercutio: wow, 9:30pm *is* early up_the_irons: ikr :) it helps avoid the second wind though yeah, i can understand that for sure. I get my second wind around 10/11 yeah, so it means more balanced energy, and it means waking up really early where it's quiet like the evening so it's kind of a win/win sweet http://www.anandtech.com/show/10533/samsung-expands-its-pm1633a-lineup-as-1536-tb-ssd-hits-retail-for-10k that seems rather high density mercutio: I wouldnt trust my data on an SSD with such high capacity, unless it was backed by a RAID 10 or something similar mnathani: i wouldn't want to spend $10,000 USD on a SSD myself... but raid 10... that's $40k.. for 2x2... personally i have 4 ssd in raid 10 at home and when i get around to it i'm shifting to raidz with 3 larger ssd there's really no iops performance benefit, and write endurance isn't really a big deal At that capacity and price, SSDs like that are usually destined for Big Data and Big Compute where you need more storage than you can feasibly have as RAM, that data is initially stored somewhere more traditionally reliable, spooled to SSD, then crunched. i.e. Amazon ECS, Hadoop clusters, etc In fact I can think of several Amazon/cloud services that would benefit from such a beast.