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| up_the_irons | Inviting happy users to leave a review: https://www.crowdreviews.com/arp-networks
Or even unhappy ones, but I think the happier the better ;) | [18:50] | |
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| nathani | any eta on Germany going live? | [19:12] | |
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| mnathani | up_the_irons: I dont like that they need 50 words for: What was the worst part about dealing with ARP Networks?
I am having difficulty coming up with so many for that section | [19:41] | |
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| up_the_irons: guess my review was the first one on the site | [19:59] | ||
| up_the_irons | nathani: I hope to have our first VM server there in May 1.
mnathani: hmm that sucks they require so many words | [20:02] | |
| sjackso | "The worst part about dealing with ARP Networks is that their preferred customer review site requires so many words for the negative side of the review." | [20:03] | |
| mnathani | I guess one could say there really isnt a worst part about dealing with ARP Networks and stretch it out for like 50 words
yea lol | [20:03] | |
| up_the_irons | sjackso: LOL
mnathani: thanks for the first review!! There's two... A mysterious second poster is in our mists | [20:05] | |
| sjackso | up_the_irons: Do you ever have older machines available to hire as dedicated machines? I've been shopping around for cheap dedicated boxes, mostly out of curiosity, and ARP's prices are all fair for the specs but the minimum specs are high. | [20:07] | |
| up_the_irons | sjackso: Not yet really, all ours boxes are still rented out or used as VM hosts. The main problem with older machines is power consumption. Like, we can probably rent 2 or more E3 machines using the same power draw as an older X5500 machine, for example. So this would actually raise the price on that machine even though it's older. I think most companies simply reserve some power for older boxes and
just eat the cost. | [20:13] | |
| mercutio | a lot of the hosts selling old boxes cheap are hosting in locations where power is cheap
like kansas often cheap means very low support too | [20:14] | |
| up_the_irons | Our LA cage is quite full, so we're looking to consolidate some of the kvr hosts onto newer boxes, then simply dump that hardware. Not worth the power draw. | [20:15] | |
| sjackso | mercutio: yes, most of the ones competing on minimum price look pretty sketchy | [20:23] | |
| mercutio | i researched dedicated servers years ago and a lot of the cheap ones had quite a lot of DDOS issues etc
and i dunno about other people, but if i want a dedicated server i'm going to have monitoring. so if there are ddos issues in the middle of the night that alert me it gets irritating quite quickly | [20:25] | |
| up_the_irons | +1 | [20:28] | |
| mercutio | sjackso: we've been thinking about doing some kind of semi-dedicated offering for in between dedicated servers and VPS. is that the kind of thing you may be interested in? | [20:28] | |
| sjackso | mercutio: Possibly. How were you thinking of structuring it? | [20:41] | |
| mercutio | sjackso: maybe dual e5s separated into 4 customers or such, with dedicated ssd's and some shared large storage | [20:42] | |
| mnathani | mercutio: how much ram in such an offering? | [20:46] | |
| sjackso | so it'd look like a vps with dedicated bits of concrete hardware? | [20:47] | |
| mercutio | mnathani: "heaps" | [20:47] | |
| mnathani | It would have to be RAID ssd of some sort
can't have an SSD fail and bring down the VM | [20:47] | |
| mercutio | mnathani: yeah either raid ssd or just dual dedicated ssd per user
sjackso: yeah and more ram, cpu, disk etc mnathani: not sure on numbers yet, just been thinking about it | [20:47] | |
| mnathani: the same problem exists with dedicated servers really - you need two disks for redundancy at least.
but then if you want bulk storage on top of that it gets a little hairy | [20:53] | ||
| mnathani | SAN to the rescue | [20:54] | |
| mercutio | which is one of the places that semi-dedicated could actually be better | [20:54] | |
| mnathani | NFS/iSCSI
price would go up significantly though | [20:54] | |
| up_the_irons | semi-dedicated could have volumes mounted from our Ceph cluster | [21:01] | |
| mnathani | @google ceph cluster | [21:01] | |
| BryceBot | 59,500 total results returned for 'ceph cluster', here's 3
Ceph (software) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ceph_(software)) In computing, Ceph is an object storage based free software storage platform that stores data on a single distributed computer cluster, and provides interfaces for ... Storage Cluster Quick Start — Ceph Documentation (http://docs.ceph.com/docs/master/start/quick-ceph-deploy/) As a first exercise, create a Ceph Storage Cluster with one Ceph Monitor and two Ceph OSD Daemons. Once the cluster reaches a active + clean state, expand ... | [21:01] | |
| up_the_irons | Could significantly reduce cost for bulk storage and yet not require someone to build their own | [21:02] | |
| mnathani | Is that kind of like a SAN? | [21:02] | |
| mercutio | It is redundant | [21:02] | |
| mnathani | Hotswappable drives? | [21:02] | |
| mercutio | At a host level. | [21:02] | |
| up_the_irons | mnathani: Ceph is unified storage solution. "SAN" kinda doesn't do it justice.
But yes, you can think of it a such as | [21:03] | |
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| mercutio | so ubuntu 16.10 is going to be called yakkety yak
their names are getting worse | [21:32] | |
| meingtsla | Did anyone win any bets? | [21:33] | |
| mercutio | people bet on the names? | [21:37] | |
| BryceBot | That's what she said!! | [21:37] | |
| mercutio | actually the lts names aren't so bad | [21:39] | |
| up_the_irons | what happens after they hit 'z' | [21:40] | |
| mercutio | i assume they go back to a | [21:41] | |
| up_the_irons | yeah | [21:41] | |
| sjackso | I dunno, wasn't there a doctor seuss book where he made up some letters after z? | [21:50] | |
| up_the_irons | lol | [21:56] | |
| sjackso | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_Beyond_Zebra! | [22:01] | |
| BryceBot | On Beyond Zebra! :: On Beyond Zebra! is an illustrated children's book by Theodor Geisel, better known as Dr. Seuss. In this boundary-pushing take on the genre of alphabet book, Seuss presents not only the 26 letters of the conventional English alphabet but the 20 that come after that as well. Plot The young narrator, not content with the confines of the ordinary alphabet, reports on additional letters beyond Z, with a fantastic creature... | [22:01] | |
| sjackso | This would work great for Ubuntu, there's already animals associated with each letter! | [22:03] | |
| up_the_irons | hahaha | [22:09] | |
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| mnathani | @google swift | [23:45] | |
| BryceBot | 34,700,000 total results returned for 'swift', here's 3
Swift Mailer: Powerful component based mailing library for PHP (http://swiftmailer.org/) Swift Mailer integrates into any web app written in PHP 5, offering a flexible and elegant object-oriented approach to sending emails with a multitude of features. python-swiftclient 3.0.0 (https://pypi.python.org/pypi/python-swiftclient) OpenStack Object Storage API Client Library. This is a python client for the Swift API. There's a Python API (the swiftclient module), and a command-line script ... Apple's Swift 2 is now open-source | The FreeBSD Forums (https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/54270/) Apple's Swift programming language has been open-sourced. Opps! Apple's big news was accidentally leaked hours early, and no one was ... | [23:45] | |
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