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nathani: @weather whitby
BryceBot: 3 locations matched your query: Whitby, ON, CA (zmw:00000.11.WCYOO), Whitby, GB (zmw:00000.1.03282), Whitby, WV (zmw:25823.2.99999),
nathani: @weather zmw:00000.11WCY00
BryceBot: Error, No cities match your search query
nathani: @weather zmw:00000.11.WCYOO
BryceBot: Whitby, Ontario: Clear 58°F (14°C), Humidity: 33%, Wind: Calm -- For more details including the forecast and almanac, see http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=43.908073,-78.928635 or re-request this with: @weather -v zmw:00000.11.WCYOO
mnathani: do any Intel i7 processors support 128 GB ram?
mercutio: nope
oh hangon the xeon i7s should
but they're xeons with xeon pricing and i7 names :)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117402
actualyl not as bad as i thought
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231853
mnathani: http://ark.intel.com/products/82932/Intel-Core-i7-5820K-Processor-15M-Cache-up-to-3_60-GHz < that says 64 GB Ram max
mercutio: it may predate 1gb sicks
mnathani: s/1gb sicks/16gb sticks
BryceBot: <mercutio> it may predate 16gb sticks
mercutio: wow i missed two characters
what is "Hyper-V VMBus hypercall user-space exit" :)
it's getting into the silly naming :)
this new schedule/cpu frequency scaling coming to linux sounds good
at the moment cpu frequency scaling ends up not working very well unless you have light/high load
mnathani: mercutio: you ever try proxmox?
mercutio: mnathani: not yet
i tried smartos
mnathani: is that also like a virtualization gui?
or more command line based stuff?
mercutio: it's like a virtualisation OS
mnathani: based on Linux?
mercutio: https://smartos.org/
nah
solaris
mnathani: is there a paid version?
or all free?
mercutio: it's free
you may be able to get support contract
i wish dtrace would come to linux
it's what i miss most from solaris ;)
i think dtrace is on freebsd
mnathani: how would you explain dtrace? The wikipedia page is too technical
mercutio: dtrace is great for looking at what low level code programs are doing
in order to debug issues/performance/etc
basically it's great for performance analysis
so you can do things like see which applications are doing small synchronous disk writes easily
mnathani: useful mainly for developer / programer type persons?
mercutio: Nah it is more devops and sys admin
mnathani: are there wrappers / gui programs around it
or is it more like low level system commands
mercutio: it basically makes it easy to identify what is causing bottlenecks in a running system
so if you have a web page that sometimes takes 7 seconds to load but usually takes 0.1 seconds to load, it's great for figuring out why
like it may be dns, or network, or disk, or something else
and so it helps pinpoint where issues are
mnathani: I see
mercutio: especially with niggly intermittment problems like that
mnathani: do you know of a site that can provide best value for money on an i7 series processor
probably the DDR3 2011 board
mercutio: i wouldnt' go over 64gb myself
better to go skylake and 64gb
jpalmer: mnathani: we use proxmox a lot at work.
mercutio: ddr3 2011 would go second hand
apparently you can just use xeon cpus in some of the desktop boards
although ddr3 can't do 128gb on desktop boards
you need to do ddr4
mnathani: probably stick with 64 gb for now
ddr3 if possible to keep costs down
mercutio: i'm not sure why you'd want heaps of ram on a desktop though
ddr3 and ddr4 are similar pricing
but you can get 16gb ddr4 sticks way cheaper than 16gb ddr3 sticks
for 16gb on ddr3 you need to use registered ram which i suspect the desktop boards won't support
with ddr4 you can do 8x8 pretty cheap
on haswell-ep
and skylake you should be able to do 4x16gb on normal boards
mnathani: I want to be able to do nested vms
proxmox / vmware vsphere
mercutio: then get a separate server
mnathani: to try them out
then cisco virtual routers
mercutio: i hvae a hp single cpu server with 6x8gb
was cheap
and still ecc
it's noisy though
so it's usually turned off
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