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| nathani | @weather whitby | [17:46] |
| BryceBot | 3 locations matched your query: Whitby, ON, CA (zmw:00000.11.WCYOO), Whitby, GB (zmw:00000.1.03282), Whitby, WV (zmw:25823.2.99999), | [17:46] |
| nathani | @weather zmw:00000.11WCY00 | [17:47] |
| BryceBot | Error, No cities match your search query | [17:47] |
| nathani | @weather zmw:00000.11.WCYOO | [17:48] |
| BryceBot | Whitby, Ontario: Clear 58°F (14°C), Humidity: 33%, Wind: Calm -- For more details including the forecast and almanac, see http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=43.908073,-78.928635 or re-request this with: @weather -v zmw:00000.11.WCYOO | [17:48] |
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| mnathani | do any Intel i7 processors support 128 GB ram? | [19:20] |
| mercutio | nope
oh hangon the xeon i7s should but they're xeons with xeon pricing and i7 names :) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117402 actualyl not as bad as i thought | [19:28] |
| http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231853 | [19:34] | |
| mnathani | http://ark.intel.com/products/82932/Intel-Core-i7-5820K-Processor-15M-Cache-up-to-3_60-GHz < that says 64 GB Ram max | [19:40] |
| mercutio | it may predate 1gb sicks | [19:40] |
| mnathani | s/1gb sicks/16gb sticks | [19:41] |
| BryceBot | <mercutio> it may predate 16gb sticks | [19:41] |
| mercutio | wow i missed two characters
what is "Hyper-V VMBus hypercall user-space exit" :) it's getting into the silly naming :) this new schedule/cpu frequency scaling coming to linux sounds good at the moment cpu frequency scaling ends up not working very well unless you have light/high load | [19:41] |
| mnathani | mercutio: you ever try proxmox? | [19:49] |
| mercutio | mnathani: not yet
i tried smartos | [19:50] |
| mnathani | is that also like a virtualization gui?
or more command line based stuff? | [19:53] |
| mercutio | it's like a virtualisation OS | [19:54] |
| mnathani | based on Linux? | [19:54] |
| mercutio | https://smartos.org/
nah solaris | [19:54] |
| mnathani | is there a paid version?
or all free? | [19:55] |
| mercutio | it's free
you may be able to get support contract i wish dtrace would come to linux it's what i miss most from solaris ;) i think dtrace is on freebsd | [19:55] |
| mnathani | how would you explain dtrace? The wikipedia page is too technical | [19:59] |
| mercutio | dtrace is great for looking at what low level code programs are doing
in order to debug issues/performance/etc basically it's great for performance analysis so you can do things like see which applications are doing small synchronous disk writes easily | [20:00] |
| mnathani | useful mainly for developer / programer type persons? | [20:01] |
| mercutio | Nah it is more devops and sys admin | [20:06] |
| mnathani | are there wrappers / gui programs around it
or is it more like low level system commands | [20:06] |
| mercutio | it basically makes it easy to identify what is causing bottlenecks in a running system
so if you have a web page that sometimes takes 7 seconds to load but usually takes 0.1 seconds to load, it's great for figuring out why like it may be dns, or network, or disk, or something else and so it helps pinpoint where issues are | [20:07] |
| mnathani | I see | [20:09] |
| mercutio | especially with niggly intermittment problems like that | [20:09] |
| mnathani | do you know of a site that can provide best value for money on an i7 series processor
probably the DDR3 2011 board | [20:18] |
| mercutio | i wouldnt' go over 64gb myself
better to go skylake and 64gb | [20:31] |
| jpalmer | mnathani: we use proxmox a lot at work. | [20:32] |
| mercutio | ddr3 2011 would go second hand
apparently you can just use xeon cpus in some of the desktop boards although ddr3 can't do 128gb on desktop boards you need to do ddr4 | [20:32] |
| mnathani | probably stick with 64 gb for now
ddr3 if possible to keep costs down | [20:33] |
| mercutio | i'm not sure why you'd want heaps of ram on a desktop though
ddr3 and ddr4 are similar pricing but you can get 16gb ddr4 sticks way cheaper than 16gb ddr3 sticks for 16gb on ddr3 you need to use registered ram which i suspect the desktop boards won't support with ddr4 you can do 8x8 pretty cheap on haswell-ep and skylake you should be able to do 4x16gb on normal boards | [20:33] |
| mnathani | I want to be able to do nested vms
proxmox / vmware vsphere | [20:35] |
| mercutio | then get a separate server | [20:35] |
| mnathani | to try them out
then cisco virtual routers | [20:35] |
| mercutio | i hvae a hp single cpu server with 6x8gb
was cheap and still ecc it's noisy though so it's usually turned off | [20:35] |
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