[00:06] I like using Twitter because it's completely separate from us, so even if our LA data center was nuked, I could tweet that fact and everyone would know ;) [00:19] assuming you werent vaporized along with LA [00:19] oh dude that reminds me [00:19] sec [00:19] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Hand_%28nuclear_war%29 [00:19] Dead Hand (nuclear war) :: Dead Hand (Russian: Система «Периметр», Systema "Perimetr", 15Э601), also known as Perimeter, was a Cold-War-era nuclear-control system used by the Soviet Union. General speculation from insiders alleges that the system remains in use in post-Soviet Russia. An example of fail-deadly deterrence, it can automatically trigger the launch of the Russian intercontinental ballistic missiles (ICBMs) if a nucle [00:19] you need that [00:20] up_the_irons: Does mercutio have access to the Twitter account? :) [00:21] *** joepie91_ has joined #arpnetworks [00:22] brycec: no, i don't. [00:22] brycec: no [00:22] Well maybe he should, in case Los Angeles is wiped off the map :P [00:23] i think of los angeles was wiped off the map it would be in the news [00:23] and people would know about it :) [00:23] LOL [00:23] heh [00:23] But they might still assume their VPS and colo'd machines are okay, safe inside a datacenter... [00:23] but the point is well taken; we should have human RAID1 [00:23] brycec: hahahahahah [00:23] brycec: they might be :) [00:24] despite however peppered in radioactive fallout [00:24] they'll probably still keep going for a little while at least [00:24] i don't know for sure [00:24] may cause a few bit flips but no big deal [00:24] aren't things moving from radioactive to chemical weapons? [00:25] Never know until we try it! #NotAdvocatingGlobalThermonuclearWar [00:25] yes zombies [00:25] world war z inspired them to do things right because they saw the mountain of zombies and were like oh shit thats a really good idea, we should do that [00:26] I hear the book was like a completely different story [00:26] I haven't read it before though [00:26] lol [00:26] not really my thing [00:29] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sK99WuaU_k8 [00:29] YouTube video: "PDP-11/34 with RL-01 drives" by Ray Fantini [00:56] *** pjs has quit IRC (Read error: Network is unreachable) [01:03] *** pjs has joined #arpnetworks [01:04] *** pjs is now known as Guest60912 [01:12] *** KILLALLHUMANS01 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [01:14] *** plett_ is now known as plett [01:34] *** nathani has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) [01:39] * brycec lost connectivity with his ARP Metal box :/ [01:39] [and is now figuring out if it's a box issue or ARP] [01:40] brycec: what's the box label? [01:41] stl21 [01:41] last I "heard" from it was ~15 minutes ago [01:41] (And I don't want to fight the IPMI battle, but looks like I'll have to) [01:42] I'm in our cage right now. Took a look at it. Seems alright. [01:42] But I can judge only from it's lights [01:43] heh, thanks for looking. [01:43] Was running md5's on some big files, so could've choked on IO I suppose [01:44] if you'd like a hard reboot at some point, just lmk [01:44] Thanks - IPMI works so I can reboot if needed [01:44] saves you having to push the IPMI power button [01:44] ok cool [01:45] (SOL doesn't, but I don't remember if I set that up) [01:45] SOL won't work unless you set it up, yeah [01:45] or rather, it'll work, but if you don't have anything talking to the serial port, then... [01:46] lol I know [01:46] * brycec is now hating on javaws and its propensity to randomly pick up Firefox's proxy settings [01:47] ouch [01:47] but only *some* of the Proxy settings, totally ignores the "No proxy for" settings [01:48] \o/ OOM \o/ [01:49] *** nathani has joined #arpnetworks [01:49] *** mjp has quit IRC (Disconnected by services) [01:50] *** KILLALLHUMANS01 has joined #arpnetworks [01:51] lol rly [01:51] yep really [01:52] up_the_irons: Is the IPMI NIC separate from the dual-GBE ports? [01:54] brycec: yes [01:55] Hm. I was thinking unplugging the Internet from it would allow it a chance to catch up, but probably not. I'm probably better off pushing the reset button :( [01:57] well i can unplug the nics if you like ;) [01:58] I just sent reset ;) [01:58] But thanks for the offer/willingness [01:58] np [02:02] 16GB RAM, 16GB swap, and it OOM'd :( [02:03] * brycec blames ZFS [02:03] *** ant has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [02:04] * up_the_irons blames ZFS too [02:04] *** Seju has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) [02:04] *** jelleke has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [02:04] *** gizmoguy has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [02:04] brycec: running Linux or FreeBSD? [02:04] Linux [02:05] *** gizmoguy has joined #arpnetworks [02:05] what do you have running on top of it, if you don't mind me asking [02:05] Proxmox [02:05] (I don't mind) [02:05] happen to have a lot of VMs, or? [02:06] mercutio and I are actually building a Linux / ZFS box for VMs... [02:06] so your experience scares me ;) [02:06] but we'll have 96GB RAM [02:06] And in Proxmox, a variety of things: servers with databases, web stuff, mail and dns backups, Splunk, etc. But yeah the flexibility/control/cost is important. [02:07] I love ZFS absolutely, but I wouldn't really recommend running mission-critical applications on Linux-ZFS. It's not perfect, it has its periodic quirks. [02:07] brycec: anything in logs? [02:07] Oh and without question, SSD at least for a cache and logging vdev. [02:08] brycec: over allocating memory is the biggest concern with zfs atm [02:08] if you have a reasonable amount of headroom you're fine [02:08] (Not that I have an SSD in my Metal box, but I wish I did :p it makes a huge IO boost) [02:08] on older versions of zfs it's advised to raise /proc/sys/vm/min_free_kbytes [02:08] *** jelleke has joined #arpnetworks [02:09] ssd caching doesn't help much except for metadata ime [02:09] with zfs at least [02:09] you use up ram with the tables as well [02:09] I'll check into exact memory usage in the morning [02:09] are you doing l2arc bryce? [02:10] Most recently I setup a box with a pair of 1TB drives in zfs-mirro. Performance was abysmal once the RAM buffers filled up. Slap in a cheap SSD and the thing soars now. [02:11] Yeah [02:11] (Also RAM usage dropped once the cache vdev was added, for obvious reasons) [02:11] brycec: how big is your l2arc? [02:11] *** ant has joined #arpnetworks [02:11] On that system, 50GB, <1GB usage last I checked. [02:11] <1GB usage heh [02:12] you may as well use zfs set secondarycache=metadata [02:12] but i'd go for smaller l2arc than that on 16gb of ram [02:12] The machine in question (with the SSD) only has 8GB RAM actually [02:13] [Not to be confused with my ARP machine tonight) [02:13] ahh [02:13] yeah i've seen l2arc be a problem with memory [02:14] [ARP machine has no l2arc, so things can get sticky) [02:14] ahh [02:15] brycec: i hit some serious performance deficits when i was trying to test low memory usage to eradicate caching :) [02:16] problem is with a 48gb server using hard-disks it takes ages to benchmark when you have to go above capacity [02:16] so i tried something silly low [02:16] 2gb i think it was [02:17] *** Seji has joined #arpnetworks [02:19] brycec: my home linux box has 16gb with zfs [02:19] doesn't seem to be a problem [02:19] and that's with chrome etc running on it [02:19] and with more ram around that i had earmarked to upgrade with [02:19] * mercutio doesn't like rebooting :) [02:20] i don't think 16gb should be in the generally difficult carea [02:20] area [02:21] Like I said earlier, was doing heavy IO so apparently the ARC and everything else were in contention and before I knew up 6GB of RAM went out the window. [02:25] *** pyvpx_ is now known as pyvpx [02:42] *** KILLALLHUMANS01 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) [02:49] *** KILLALLHUMANS01 has joined #arpnetworks [02:49] is everything zfs? [03:22] *** erratic has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [03:33] *** erratic has joined #arpnetworks [03:33] ..I'll check twiiter.. [03:40] I was in the car so couldn't tweet... [03:41] ah hehe no worries [03:41] Im gonna crash I'll check in the morning [03:42] g'nite! [03:43] yeah was just gonna say I'm having trouble with OOB but that might be obvious catch you later [03:44] i'll take a look [03:44] seems up now it came up while I wasnt watching [03:44] in OOB? [03:45] web console connected alright for me [03:48] *** paigeat has joined #arpnetworks [03:50] *** erratic has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) [03:51] yeah there was a little lag getting connected to the OOB bastion via ssh and I was trying to debug it but it seems fine now I'm not really sure how it works was just looking at ssh -vvv [03:52] it was connecting and authing but nothing was coming up. [03:52] roger that [04:04] *** Lucifer333 has joined #arpnetworks [04:08] *** Lucifer333 has quit IRC (Disconnected by services) [04:12] *** Lucifer333 has joined #arpnetworks [04:13] *** erratic has joined #arpnetworks [04:30] *** jcv has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) [04:31] *** jcv has joined #arpnetworks [04:37] *** JC_Denton has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) [04:37] *** JC_Denton has joined #arpnetworks [04:50] *** erratic has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [05:07] *** jelleke has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) [05:09] *** jelleke has joined #arpnetworks [05:09] *** abthorpet has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) [05:09] *** tabthorpe has joined #arpnetworks [05:10] *** hive-mind has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) [05:18] *** hive-mind has joined #arpnetworks [06:21] *** Guest60912 has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [06:22] *** Guest60912 has joined #arpnetworks [06:52] *** JC_Denton has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [06:52] *** jcv has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [06:52] *** nathani has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [06:54] *** jcv has joined #arpnetworks [06:57] *** JC_Denton has joined #arpnetworks [07:06] *** nathani has joined #arpnetworks [09:43] mercutio: Yeah, ZFS root. (Because that's what Proxmox likes to do these days, and I can't say as I blame it because it's nice.) [09:50] *** Guest60912 is now known as pjs [10:25] *** jelleke has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [10:28] *** jelleke has joined #arpnetworks [11:16] *** carvite has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [11:25] *** mordac has joined #arpnetworks [11:29] *** carvite has joined #arpnetworks [11:55] *** carvite has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [11:57] *** carvite has joined #arpnetworks [15:04] *** JC_Denton has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) [15:05] *** JC_Denton has joined #arpnetworks [15:13] *** rmlhhd has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) [15:19] *** rmlhhd has joined #arpnetworks [15:47] *** Lucifer333 has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [15:55] *** Lucifer333 has joined #arpnetworks [19:17] up_the_irons: is the zfs server with 96 gb ram headed for Germany, or LAX? [19:18] germany [20:35] *** pjs_ has joined #arpnetworks [20:36] *** nathani has quit IRC (*.net *.split) [20:36] *** pjs has quit IRC (*.net *.split) [20:41] *** KILLALLHUMANS01 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [20:45] *** nathani has joined #arpnetworks [21:07] *** KILLALLHUMANS01 has joined #arpnetworks [21:46] *** erratic has joined #arpnetworks [21:55] supermicro server board? [22:01] I have one. [22:01] x10dri-o [22:08] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gP_Q2myNWo [22:08] YouTube video: "The Apple Tree Feat. The Glitch Mob" by Khameleon808 [22:23] you can probably have it [22:23] I dont think Im gonna need it [22:24] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVZCO9OHPHA [22:24] YouTube video: "Nick Warren ‎- Global Underground #028: Shanghai CD1" by Emsiukas69 [22:24] tired of watching the world burn [22:31] technology means nothing to me anymore [22:32] *** nathani has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [22:32] https://gist.github.com/cloudkitsch/b319051c8aa91492eaeb [22:35] https://gist.github.com/cloudkitsch/d3575d806f4c9d5be9ec [22:35] Gist: "https://gist.github.com/d3575d806f4c9d5be9ec" [22:36] sigh. [22:37] so close and yet so far [22:37] I dont really have a choice but to give it up at this point because I cant afford that [22:38] not to mention what good would it really do having been a ketamine/mxe user in the past, its temporary. [22:43] and I'm pretty sure the last thing anybody wants or needs is a scathing suicidal nutcase like me so I'm done and I need to find what really makes me happy which is not this shit [22:45] *** KILLALLHUMANS01 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) [22:47] *** nathani has joined #arpnetworks [22:50] and I just gotta make it stop, the nitrous the adderal the estrogen injections the effexor the klonopin the job its all gotta away [22:52] dare I even say facebook [22:52] *** KILLALLHUMANS01 has joined #arpnetworks [22:52] *** KILLALLHUMANS01 has quit IRC (Changing host) [22:52] *** KILLALLHUMANS01 has joined #arpnetworks [22:52] *** KILLALLHUMANS01 has quit IRC (Changing host) [22:52] *** KILLALLHUMANS01 has joined #arpnetworks [22:57] I dont think anybody here can relate but thats okay you don't want to and I don't want you to either but yeah I'm I think I'm giving up everything [22:58] my feelings are pretty uncompromising about this [23:05] I just want to live my life and be happy and be a woman and my interests are not aligned with what the "average" customers interests (eg: create-saml-provider) are [23:06] fuck an mfa device [23:07] ``aws iam help'' what do you they need me for [23:07] heh, saml [23:07] AbstractSingletonProxyFactoryBean [23:09] rolls eyes, http://docs.aws.amazon.com/AWSCloudFormation/latest/UserGuide/working-with-templates-cfn-designer.html meh! [23:10] I'm way more interested in algorithms https://gist.github.com/cloudkitsch/a214ca4e0467ff2a2db968ecca6cbe3a [23:11] but at the same time I dont care about money either because it doesn't make me happy [23:12] so fuck being a quant [23:14] I'm happy to do it for somebody else who would appreciate it but my interests are skin deep in the thing [23:22] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEwCKtUJuFw [23:22] YouTube video: "Urban Exploration: Abandoned Subdivision Florida" by TikiTrex [23:28] I just imagine going into this place and a giant cockroach come flying across the room at me like ohaiiiiii!