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| up_the_irons | I like using Twitter because it's completely separate from us, so even if our LA data center was nuked, I could tweet that fact and everyone would know ;) | [00:06] |
| erratic | assuming you werent vaporized along with LA
oh dude that reminds me sec https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Hand_%28nuclear_war%29 | [00:19] |
| BryceBot | Dead Hand (nuclear war) :: Dead Hand (Russian: Система «Периметр», Systema "Perimetr", 15Э601), also known as Perimeter, was a Cold-War-era nuclear-control system used by the Soviet Union. General speculation from insiders alleges that the system remains in use in post-Soviet Russia. An example of fail-deadly deterrence, it can automatically trigger the launch of the Russian intercontinental ballistic missiles (ICBMs) if a nucle | [00:19] |
| erratic | you need that | [00:19] |
| brycec | up_the_irons: Does mercutio have access to the Twitter account? :) | [00:20] |
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| mercutio | brycec: no, i don't. | [00:22] |
| up_the_irons | brycec: no | [00:22] |
| brycec | Well maybe he should, in case Los Angeles is wiped off the map :P | [00:22] |
| mercutio | i think of los angeles was wiped off the map it would be in the news
and people would know about it :) | [00:23] |
| up_the_irons | LOL | [00:23] |
| erratic | heh | [00:23] |
| brycec | But they might still assume their VPS and colo'd machines are okay, safe inside a datacenter... | [00:23] |
| up_the_irons | but the point is well taken; we should have human RAID1 | [00:23] |
| erratic | brycec: hahahahahah | [00:23] |
| mercutio | brycec: they might be :) | [00:23] |
| erratic | despite however peppered in radioactive fallout | [00:24] |
| mercutio | they'll probably still keep going for a little while at least
i don't know for sure | [00:24] |
| erratic | may cause a few bit flips but no big deal | [00:24] |
| mercutio | aren't things moving from radioactive to chemical weapons? | [00:24] |
| brycec | Never know until we try it! #NotAdvocatingGlobalThermonuclearWar | [00:25] |
| erratic | yes zombies
world war z inspired them to do things right because they saw the mountain of zombies and were like oh shit thats a really good idea, we should do that I hear the book was like a completely different story I haven't read it before though | [00:25] |
| up_the_irons | lol | [00:26] |
| erratic | not really my thing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sK99WuaU_k8 | [00:26] |
| BryceBot | YouTube video: "PDP-11/34 with RL-01 drives" by Ray Fantini | [00:29] |
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| brycec | brycec lost connectivity with his ARP Metal box :/
[and is now figuring out if it's a box issue or ARP] | [01:39] |
| up_the_irons | brycec: what's the box label? | [01:40] |
| brycec | stl21
last I "heard" from it was ~15 minutes ago (And I don't want to fight the IPMI battle, but looks like I'll have to) | [01:41] |
| up_the_irons | I'm in our cage right now. Took a look at it. Seems alright.
But I can judge only from it's lights | [01:42] |
| brycec | heh, thanks for looking.
Was running md5's on some big files, so could've choked on IO I suppose | [01:43] |
| up_the_irons | if you'd like a hard reboot at some point, just lmk | [01:44] |
| brycec | Thanks - IPMI works so I can reboot if needed | [01:44] |
| up_the_irons | saves you having to push the IPMI power button
ok cool | [01:44] |
| brycec | (SOL doesn't, but I don't remember if I set that up) | [01:45] |
| up_the_irons | SOL won't work unless you set it up, yeah
or rather, it'll work, but if you don't have anything talking to the serial port, then... | [01:45] |
| brycec | lol I know
brycec is now hating on javaws and its propensity to randomly pick up Firefox's proxy settings | [01:46] |
| up_the_irons | ouch | [01:47] |
| brycec | but only *some* of the Proxy settings, totally ignores the "No proxy for" settings
o/ OOM o/ | [01:47] |
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| up_the_irons | lol rly | [01:51] |
| brycec | yep really
up_the_irons: Is the IPMI NIC separate from the dual-GBE ports? | [01:51] |
| up_the_irons | brycec: yes | [01:54] |
| brycec | Hm. I was thinking unplugging the Internet from it would allow it a chance to catch up, but probably not. I'm probably better off pushing the reset button :( | [01:55] |
| up_the_irons | well i can unplug the nics if you like ;) | [01:57] |
| brycec | I just sent reset ;)
But thanks for the offer/willingness | [01:58] |
| up_the_irons | np | [01:58] |
| brycec | 16GB RAM, 16GB swap, and it OOM'd :(
brycec blames ZFS | [02:02] |
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| up_the_irons | up_the_irons blames ZFS too | [02:04] |
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| up_the_irons | brycec: running Linux or FreeBSD? | [02:04] |
| brycec | Linux | [02:04] |
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| up_the_irons | what do you have running on top of it, if you don't mind me asking | [02:05] |
| brycec | Proxmox
(I don't mind) | [02:05] |
| up_the_irons | happen to have a lot of VMs, or?
mercutio and I are actually building a Linux / ZFS box for VMs... so your experience scares me ;) but we'll have 96GB RAM | [02:05] |
| brycec | And in Proxmox, a variety of things: servers with databases, web stuff, mail and dns backups, Splunk, etc. But yeah the flexibility/control/cost is important.
I love ZFS absolutely, but I wouldn't really recommend running mission-critical applications on Linux-ZFS. It's not perfect, it has its periodic quirks. | [02:06] |
| mercutio | brycec: anything in logs? | [02:07] |
| brycec | Oh and without question, SSD at least for a cache and logging vdev. | [02:07] |
| mercutio | brycec: over allocating memory is the biggest concern with zfs atm
if you have a reasonable amount of headroom you're fine | [02:08] |
| brycec | (Not that I have an SSD in my Metal box, but I wish I did :p it makes a huge IO boost) | [02:08] |
| mercutio | on older versions of zfs it's advised to raise /proc/sys/vm/min_free_kbytes | [02:08] |
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| mercutio | ssd caching doesn't help much except for metadata ime
with zfs at least you use up ram with the tables as well | [02:09] |
| brycec | I'll check into exact memory usage in the morning | [02:09] |
| mercutio | are you doing l2arc bryce? | [02:09] |
| brycec | Most recently I setup a box with a pair of 1TB drives in zfs-mirro. Performance was abysmal once the RAM buffers filled up. Slap in a cheap SSD and the thing soars now.
Yeah (Also RAM usage dropped once the cache vdev was added, for obvious reasons) | [02:10] |
| mercutio | brycec: how big is your l2arc? | [02:11] |
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| brycec | On that system, 50GB, <1GB usage last I checked. | [02:11] |
| mercutio | <1GB usage heh
you may as well use zfs set secondarycache=metadata but i'd go for smaller l2arc than that on 16gb of ram | [02:11] |
| brycec | The machine in question (with the SSD) only has 8GB RAM actually
[Not to be confused with my ARP machine tonight) | [02:12] |
| mercutio | ahh
yeah i've seen l2arc be a problem with memory | [02:13] |
| brycec | [ARP machine has no l2arc, so things can get sticky) | [02:14] |
| mercutio | ahh
brycec: i hit some serious performance deficits when i was trying to test low memory usage to eradicate caching :) problem is with a 48gb server using hard-disks it takes ages to benchmark when you have to go above capacity so i tried something silly low 2gb i think it was | [02:14] |
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| mercutio | brycec: my home linux box has 16gb with zfs
doesn't seem to be a problem and that's with chrome etc running on it and with more ram around that i had earmarked to upgrade with mercutio doesn't like rebooting :) i don't think 16gb should be in the generally difficult carea area | [02:19] |
| brycec | Like I said earlier, was doing heavy IO so apparently the ARC and everything else were in contention and before I knew up 6GB of RAM went out the window. | [02:21] |
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| mercutio | is everything zfs? | [02:49] |
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| erratic | ..I'll check twiiter.. | [03:33] |
| up_the_irons | I was in the car so couldn't tweet... | [03:40] |
| erratic | ah hehe no worries
Im gonna crash I'll check in the morning | [03:41] |
| up_the_irons | g'nite! | [03:42] |
| erratic | yeah was just gonna say I'm having trouble with OOB but that might be obvious catch you later | [03:43] |
| up_the_irons | i'll take a look | [03:44] |
| erratic | seems up now it came up while I wasnt watching | [03:44] |
| up_the_irons | in OOB?
web console connected alright for me | [03:44] |
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| paigeat | yeah there was a little lag getting connected to the OOB bastion via ssh and I was trying to debug it but it seems fine now I'm not really sure how it works was just looking at ssh -vvv
it was connecting and authing but nothing was coming up. | [03:51] |
| up_the_irons | roger that | [03:52] |
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| brycec | mercutio: Yeah, ZFS root. (Because that's what Proxmox likes to do these days, and I can't say as I blame it because it's nice.) | [09:43] |
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| mnathani | up_the_irons: is the zfs server with 96 gb ram headed for Germany, or LAX? | [19:17] |
| up_the_irons | germany | [19:18] |
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| mnathani | supermicro server board? | [21:55] |
| erratic | I have one.
x10dri-o | [22:01] |
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gP_Q2myNWo | [22:08] | |
| BryceBot | YouTube video: "The Apple Tree Feat. The Glitch Mob" by Khameleon808 | [22:08] |
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| erratic | you can probably have it
I dont think Im gonna need it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVZCO9OHPHA | [22:23] |
| BryceBot | YouTube video: "Nick Warren - Global Underground #028: Shanghai CD1" by Emsiukas69 | [22:24] |
| erratic | tired of watching the world burn | [22:24] |
| technology means nothing to me anymore | [22:31] | |
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| erratic | https://gist.github.com/cloudkitsch/b319051c8aa91492eaeb
https://gist.github.com/cloudkitsch/d3575d806f4c9d5be9ec | [22:32] |
| BryceBot | Gist: "https://gist.github.com/d3575d806f4c9d5be9ec" | [22:35] |
| erratic | sigh.
so close and yet so far I dont really have a choice but to give it up at this point because I cant afford that not to mention what good would it really do having been a ketamine/mxe user in the past, its temporary. | [22:36] |
| and I'm pretty sure the last thing anybody wants or needs is a scathing suicidal nutcase like me so I'm done and I need to find what really makes me happy which is not this shit | [22:43] | |
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| erratic | and I just gotta make it stop, the nitrous the adderal the estrogen injections the effexor the klonopin the job its all gotta away
dare I even say facebook | [22:50] |
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| erratic | I dont think anybody here can relate but thats okay you don't want to and I don't want you to either but yeah I'm I think I'm giving up everything
my feelings are pretty uncompromising about this | [22:57] |
| I just want to live my life and be happy and be a woman and my interests are not aligned with what the "average" customers interests (eg: create-saml-provider) are
fuck an mfa device ``aws iam help'' what do you they need me for heh, saml AbstractSingletonProxyFactoryBean rolls eyes, http://docs.aws.amazon.com/AWSCloudFormation/latest/UserGuide/working-with-templates-cfn-designer.html meh! I'm way more interested in algorithms https://gist.github.com/cloudkitsch/a214ca4e0467ff2a2db968ecca6cbe3a but at the same time I dont care about money either because it doesn't make me happy so fuck being a quant I'm happy to do it for somebody else who would appreciate it but my interests are skin deep in the thing | [23:05] | |
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEwCKtUJuFw | [23:22] | |
| BryceBot | YouTube video: "Urban Exploration: Abandoned Subdivision Florida" by TikiTrex | [23:22] |
| erratic | I just imagine going into this place and a giant cockroach come flying across the room at me like ohaiiiiii! | [23:28] |
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