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Squillis: hello
should i be able to relay mail through my vps?
ant: Squillis: yes
Squillis: ok. i'll keep digging
ant: Squillis: i.e. there are no packet filters for typical smtp ports
Squillis: that's what i was asking
thanks
oh, cox
Note: SMTP is only permitted outbound to Cox-provided SMTP servers.
i should have guessed
mike-burns: Rough.
Squillis: quality service from a quality company
ant: Squillis: do they allow port 587 (submission)?
Squillis: it's not explicitly blocked
i was going to use another port
if postfix allows that
i figure it does
ant: it does. but submission is actually meant to be used by smtp clients connecting to a relay
instead of 25
Squillis: ah. i didn't know that
mercutio: yeah it's pretty lonng standing
and postfix will automatically support it these days
you can adjust stuff in master.cf if you want some alternate port or such
ant: i actually support providers that block port 25 outgoing, because every legit user should use 587
brycec: I support residential ISPs blocking 25 because of spam botnets
ant: that's what i wanted to express ;)
brycec: (It's usually paired with requiring authenticated SMTP to the ISP's own relays)
heh
mercutio: Now people spam through Gmail.
mnathani: mercutio: still need someone to test the new boot menu?
mercutio: yeh sure
mnathani: shutdown and boot your VM and you should get it
dne: what's new in the new boot menu?
mercutio: dns: it always shows boot options
so you don't need to press f12
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mnathani: shutting down now
mercutio: cool
dne: aha, I don't shut down very often :)
mercutio: neither do i
but i think this is a good improvement none the less
mnathani: 12 second timout
could probably use like 15
mercutio: mnathani: you can press enter or select boot option to go quicker
ahh
dne: had to shut down the other day though - for some reason the freebsd bootloader didn't find the disk when I rebooted for an upgrade (never happened before)
mercutio: dne: 10.3?
there seems to be an issue with 10.3
dne: yup, second reboot during freebsd-update (after userland is upgraded)
mercutio: hmm
that's not good
i had issues with iso booting
dne: first reboot (only kernel upgraded) was fine
mercutio: so kernel didn't boot?
hmm
there was an issue with 10.1
dne: i think it got stuck at the 1st stage bootloader
mercutio: that could be the same issue that 10.3 boot iso is having
how did you work around it?
dne: after shutdown it booted fine again
mercutio: oh
dne: from the panel
mercutio: that could be the "warm boot" kvm bug
dne: aha
mercutio: https://bugs.launchpad.net/qemu/+bug/1329956
i found when trying to figure out why 10.3 iso isn't booting
dne: weird
this never happened before though, that I can remember
mercutio: the 10.1 bug was different
after install it didn't umount the file system cleanly
and so you'd need to do a fsck
which is just wrong, but doesn't actually stop things working
dne: ah yes, but that was a freebsd bug
https://www.freebsd.org/security/advisories/FreeBSD-EN-15:05.ufs.asc ?
that shouldn't occur on a fresh install from the iso though
up_the_irons: I wonder what's a good web-based IRC gateway...
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brycec: glowing-bear.org :) (technically a web-weechat relay gateway)
up_the_irons: lol
I was thinking more for people who don't use IRC at all. So they could still join this channel from our website or something. Not long term, but maybe to ask a question or something.
brycec: I usually point people at Freenode's own web irc gateway
up_the_irons: ah OK
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