Is anybody here keen to test a new boot menu for vps? hello should i be able to relay mail through my vps? Squillis: yes ok. i'll keep digging Squillis: i.e. there are no packet filters for typical smtp ports that's what i was asking thanks oh, cox Note: SMTP is only permitted outbound to Cox-provided SMTP servers. i should have guessed Rough. quality service from a quality company Squillis: do they allow port 587 (submission)? it's not explicitly blocked i was going to use another port if postfix allows that i figure it does it does. but submission is actually meant to be used by smtp clients connecting to a relay instead of 25 ah. i didn't know that yeah it's pretty lonng standing and postfix will automatically support it these days you can adjust stuff in master.cf if you want some alternate port or such i actually support providers that block port 25 outgoing, because every legit user should use 587 I support residential ISPs blocking 25 because of spam botnets that's what i wanted to express ;) (It's usually paired with requiring authenticated SMTP to the ISP's own relays) heh Now people spam through Gmail. mercutio: still need someone to test the new boot menu? yeh sure mnathani: shutdown and boot your VM and you should get it what's new in the new boot menu? dns: it always shows boot options so you don't need to press f12 shutting down now cool aha, I don't shut down very often :) neither do i but i think this is a good improvement none the less 12 second timout could probably use like 15 mnathani: you can press enter or select boot option to go quicker ahh had to shut down the other day though - for some reason the freebsd bootloader didn't find the disk when I rebooted for an upgrade (never happened before) dne: 10.3? there seems to be an issue with 10.3 yup, second reboot during freebsd-update (after userland is upgraded) hmm that's not good i had issues with iso booting first reboot (only kernel upgraded) was fine so kernel didn't boot? hmm there was an issue with 10.1 i think it got stuck at the 1st stage bootloader that could be the same issue that 10.3 boot iso is having how did you work around it? after shutdown it booted fine again oh from the panel that could be the "warm boot" kvm bug aha https://bugs.launchpad.net/qemu/+bug/1329956 i found when trying to figure out why 10.3 iso isn't booting weird this never happened before though, that I can remember the 10.1 bug was different after install it didn't umount the file system cleanly and so you'd need to do a fsck which is just wrong, but doesn't actually stop things working ah yes, but that was a freebsd bug https://www.freebsd.org/security/advisories/FreeBSD-EN-15:05.ufs.asc ? that shouldn't occur on a fresh install from the iso though I wonder what's a good web-based IRC gateway... glowing-bear.org :) (technically a web-weechat relay gateway) lol I was thinking more for people who don't use IRC at all. So they could still join this channel from our website or something. Not long term, but maybe to ask a question or something. I usually point people at Freenode's own web irc gateway ah OK