up_the_irons, if its servers you want to ship , the most economical way is to build them on spot unless its a higher end build if you still want to go that road, expect to pay for insurance, vat and shipping adds 30 to 40 percent of the total cost pailaps: well I can't build them on-site in Germany, that is so I'd have to ship care to elaborate as to why not? www.stackry.com is one of the options you can always pay a bit more and use DHL four 2U servers were 352 dollars minus taxes pailaps: I can't build them on-site because I don't live in Germany pailaps: thanks for stackry suggestion up_the_irons, i have a list of system builders that i can reccomend pailaps: great, I'd be more than happy to check 'em out! vooservers, twp , ahead-it would be my first choices others cater a bit more specific items like gpus and physics cards good luck pailaps: well, let me say, the problem we've found with many places within the EU that build servers is, there such a high markup for things like RAM, CPUs, etc... ...aaaaaand he's gone heh yeh he seemed to disappear quick ahh stackry is another freight forwarding company there are a lot of them :) yeah Google will notify you if they detect Bad Stuff originating from your AS https://security.googleblog.com/2016/04/improvements-to-safe-browsing-alerts.html