| ↑back Search ←Prev date Next date→ Show only urls | (Click on time to select a line by its url) |
| Who | What | When |
|---|---|---|
| mnathani_ | whats a really good web based calendar app for someone looking to move away from google calendar | [00:08] |
| mike-burns | fruux | [00:08] |
| mnathani_ | mike-burns: thanks, checking it out now | [00:12] |
| ..... (idle for 22mn) | ||
| @weather yyz | [00:34] | |
| BryceBot | There are 2 weather alerts in effect for your area! There is a Winter Weather Statement. There is a Special Weather Statement.
Toronto-Pearson International, Ontario: Light Snow ❄ 21°F (-6°C), Humidity: 93%, Wind: From the NE at 13 MPH Gusting to 20 MPH -- For more details including the forecast and almanac, see http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=43.67722321,-79.63055420 or re-request this with: @weather -v yyz | [00:34] |
| brycec | Chilly. And it hit 20C here today, just a few thousand km west. | [00:35] |
| mnathani_ | https://www.flickr.com/photos/mnathani/albums/72157666641285581
https://www.flickr.com/photos/mnathani/albums/72157666641285581 here are some shots I took a few minutes ago notice the snow accumulating | [00:37] |
| brycec | Oh that's so pretty | [00:39] |
| mnathani_ | right untill you need to walk through it or drive | [00:39] |
| brycec | <-- works from home :P | [00:39] |
| mnathani_ | no wonder you are on IRC all the time :-) | [00:40] |
| brycec | Seriously
All the same, I had my own dose of "ugh, not *more* snow" this winter. But Spring is, well, springing here. | [00:40] |
| mnathani_ | when are you getting your symmetric fat internet pipe at home? | [00:41] |
| brycec | About 2 weeks (when I move) | [00:41] |
| *** | JC_Denton has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) | [00:43] |
| brycec | My home working environment has gotten quieter this weekend. :D I have scripted my backups to power on/off + zpool import/export my Xserve RAID (FC disk shelf) so it's only running when it's needed. | [00:45] |
| *** | JC_Denton has joined #arpnetworks | [00:46] |
| ...................................................................... (idle for 5h48mn) | ||
| ziyourenxiang has joined #arpnetworks | [06:34] | |
| ............................. (idle for 2h24mn) | ||
| ziyourenxiang has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) | [08:58] | |
| Lucifer333 has joined #arpnetworks | [09:11] | |
| Lucifer333 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) | [09:21] | |
| ....................................... (idle for 3h12mn) | ||
| mercutio | brycec: will save power too :) | [12:33] |
| brycec | True, though that is frankly low on my priority list
power is cheap, etc | [12:33] |
| mercutio | brycec: true, but to me it seems like a tax :)
it's kind of like paying bank charges. it may not be that high in the big scheme of things, but it just doesn't seem a nice place to spend money ;) | [12:34] |
| brycec | I'm much more concerned about personal comfort - noise, heat, whatnot. | [12:34] |
| mercutio | heh i don't use any hard-disks normally in my main room | [12:35] |
| brycec | I don't object to paying an electric bill. A service was performed, I benefited from it. Why wouldn't I pay? | [12:35] |
| mercutio | and now even one sounds noisy
well it's more about conserving power or not using excessive power Heh in winter I am less concerned about power from servers because less heating But to my mind saving 100 watts over 24 hours seems significant a fc disk array probably uses more than that it's probably only $40/year or something though. | [12:35] |
| *** | gizmoguy has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) | [12:43] |
| mercutio | err more like $180/year
hmm, california is cheaper for power than new zealand. | [12:44] |
| *** | gizmoguy has joined #arpnetworks | [12:48] |
| brycec | (not that I pay CA's relatively high power rates) | [12:51] |
| mercutio | heh
california is cheap yeh lots of the US seems cheaper than california | [12:51] |
| brycec | (for both power supplies jointly) Standby: 27W Peak: 450W when powering on. Idle: 238W
that's for redundant PSU, redundant fans, redundant controllers, and 14 IDE drives | [12:53] |
| mercutio | any idea what your unit cost for power is like? | [12:53] |
| brycec | It's tiered. First 800kWh is billed at $0.07676/kWh. 801-1500 is billed at $0.08773/kWh | [12:55] |
| mercutio | wow!
that's cheap :) | [12:56] |
| brycec | Last month I used 995kWh for a bill of about $88 (after city tax etc) | [12:56] |
| mercutio | damn | [12:56] |
| *** | Lucifer333 has joined #arpnetworks | [12:56] |
| mercutio | would use less than 800kwh a month here | [12:57] |
| brycec | So you can understand why power consumption is nowhere near top of my list :p Plus it's been winter... | [12:57] |
| mercutio | yeah i get yah | [12:57] |
| brycec | So 250W at 30d*24h is 180kWh
or $13/mo | [12:57] |
| mercutio | yeah | [12:58] |
| brycec | Granted that's nearly 15% of my bill for one damn machine... but not bad overall. | [12:58] |
| mercutio | wheeas here it's more $35 to $40/month
in USD of something which doesn't need to be there :) | [12:58] |
| brycec | If it only runs about an hour a day, that drops it to 7.5kWh/mo, or $0.57/month
A 95% reduction :) | [12:59] |
| mercutio | yes
although then you'll hear it turn on/off | [13:00] |
| brycec | Not that it would bother me | [13:00] |
| mercutio | i suppose you also don't care about phantom power? | [13:00] |
| brycec | Is that something that bothers people? | [13:00] |
| mercutio | err is that the name
power usage of idle appliacnes like some microwaves use 5 watts when they're turned off | [13:00] |
| brycec | Oh right I forgot to factor in its standby draw of 27W | [13:01] |
| mercutio | 27watts standby is quite high actually | [13:01] |
| brycec | Agreed
but still less than runtime draw :p | [13:01] |
| mercutio | but you'd need to use some kind of device to turn on/off otherwise
and if power is so cheap.. | [13:01] |
| brycec | 18.63kWh+7.5kWh if including standby in my maths | [13:02] |
| mercutio | annoying thing about fc disks is you can't usually just put them in a normal machine | [13:02] |
| brycec | eh? These are pretty normal IDE disks | [13:02] |
| mercutio | oh real | [13:02] |
| brycec | really
Just an Xserve RAID | [13:02] |
| mercutio | ahh xserve raid just exports via FC? | [13:03] |
| brycec | Yes | [13:03] |
| mercutio | i played with FC a little with opensolaris
opensolaris can act as a fc host. so you can do fc client to them dunno if that's the right terms. | [13:03] |
| brycec | Drive sled/caddy http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/Nzc0WDEwMjQ=/$T2eC16RHJGQE9noM,BV-BQ9(pFVYe!~~60_12.JPG?set_id=880000500F | [13:04] |
| mercutio | interesting
i like to try to not have too much data makes backups easier :) | [13:04] |
| brycec | I use my array for storing backups :P | [13:05] |
| mnathani_ | brycec: why IDE as opposed to SATA disks | [13:05] |
| brycec | mnathani_: you'd have to ask Apple, mate. | [13:05] |
| mercutio | fc is old | [13:05] |
| brycec | I didn't design the thing :p | [13:05] |
| mnathani_ | fc as in fiber channel? | [13:05] |
| mercutio | yeah | [13:05] |
| brycec | Fibre channel, yeah | [13:06] |
| mercutio | the old 2/4gigabit stuff | [13:06] |
| brycec | (there's faster FC nowadays too) | [13:06] |
| mercutio | 8gigabit?
or over 10? | [13:06] |
| brycec | Oh yeah, rather old indeed. This unit itself is from 2004 I think. | [13:06] |
| mercutio | fc seemed kind of cool | [13:06] |
| brycec | mercutio: 8 and 16
(yep confirmed, this unit is from 2004) | [13:06] |
| mercutio | heh
so yeah that's why idee damn so are your disks from 2004 too? | [13:07] |
| brycec | Right, it's 12 years old :P
mercutio: Some of them, others newer Youngest disk is probably from 2008 I'd guess | [13:07] |
| mercutio | i'd be tempted to just make a new raid array with current disk s:)
5tb disks aren't that expensive etc | [13:08] |
| brycec | Sure but they don't come in IDE, with an excuse to use this massive thing :P | [13:09] |
| mercutio | you want an excuse to use it? | [13:09] |
| brycec | I like old tech, duh. | [13:09] |
| mercutio | heh
use a sparc with scsi disks then :) | [13:10] |
| brycec | Like I said, it's nearline storage for backups, stuff that eventually gets uploaded to S3 (currently). I don't need much, and I don't need it to last (though it has remarkably)
My sparc machine has IDE actually, but my powermacs and IIgs use SCSI :p | [13:10] |
| mercutio | yeah lots of old tech lasts real well
is a sun fire v245 any good? Four DIMM slots per processor, registered DDR-1 SDRAM ddr1 haha | [13:10] |
| brycec | brycec can beat that for age so easily...
eg Sunblade 150 and its DIMM modules | [13:13] |
| mercutio | i had a sparc 1 before | [13:13] |
| brycec | I used to have some stuff that used SIMMs but I'm pretty sure I junked it | [13:13] |
| mercutio | it booted so damn slow
generating ssh keys took forever and scrolling was ick loading X was hard on it too i think it only had 8mb of ram | [13:13] |
| brycec | (oh right, my old 486 laptop uses SIMMs, but it doesn't seem to work anymore) | [13:19] |
| mercutio | http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sun-SPARC-Enterprise-T5220-UltraSparc-T2-32GB-RAM-4x-146GB-DVD-Server-Untested-/281892793721?hash=item41a21ead79:g:Yd4AAOSwSdZWevHj
that'd be kind of fun http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sun-MicroSystem-Sparc-Enterprise-T5220-Ultrasparc-T2-8-Cores-1-20GHz-32GB-RAM/172148576968?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D36331%26meid%3Dcf6dff489aaa44648f063955c3a6cbba%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D5%26sd%3D281892793721 there's possibly cheaper ones with huge shipping costs to nz :) | [13:19] |
| "Less than 80 dBA sound power in ambient temperature of up to 24?? C, measured on a standalone system to ISO 9296 requirements"
less than 70 dbA would still be disconcerting.. | [13:32] | |
| ...... (idle for 27mn) | ||
| *** | Lucifer333 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) | [13:59] |
| ........... (idle for 53mn) | ||
| dne | dne used 116kWh in february | [14:52] |
| brycec | Nice!
That would've netted you a $17 electric bill where I live | [14:52] |
| mercutio | brycec: no daily charges? | [14:56] |
| brycec | mercutio: Just a monthly account fee $8/mo and city tax | [14:56] |
| mercutio | nice
monthly account fee is like daily charges though. at least it's low :) | [14:57] |
| brycec | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3167967/screenshot_2016-04-04_14-53-29.png | [14:57] |
| mercutio | my normal bill is just over $90 USD i think. | [14:58] |
| brycec | @exch 89 USD NZD | [14:58] |
| BryceBot | 89 USD -> 130.181724 NZD (as of Mon, 04 Apr 2016 14:00:09 -0700) | [14:58] |
| mercutio | oh ok
it's more like $140 NZD that i was thinking | [14:58] |
| brycec | @exch 140 NZD USD | [14:58] |
| BryceBot | 140 NZD -> 95.71235974721 USD (as of Mon, 04 Apr 2016 14:00:09 -0700) | [14:58] |
| mercutio | but i'm more moderate with my power usage it seems :)
and it's higher in winter last bill was $155.08 @exch 155.08 nzd usd | [14:59] |
| BryceBot | 155.08 NZD -> 106.02194821141 USD (as of Mon, 04 Apr 2016 14:00:09 -0700) | [15:00] |
| mercutio | that's for 577 units
power costs more in winter too that puts average unit cost at 0.268c/kwh damn how did dne use so little power :) | [15:02] |
| ....... (idle for 30mn) | ||
| *** | Lucifer333 has joined #arpnetworks | [15:33] |
| .................. (idle for 1h29mn) | ||
| KDE_Perry has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
KDE_Perry has joined #arpnetworks | [17:02] | |
| ...................................... (idle for 3h6mn) | ||
| ben1 has joined #arpnetworks
ChanServ sets mode: +o ben1 mercutio has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) | [20:08] | |
| nathani | I live in an apartment building, power is included in my rent | [20:12] |
| ....... (idle for 30mn) | ||
| brycec | I haven't seen a place include power with the rent since the dorms in college | [20:42] |
| ............ (idle for 56mn) | ||
| ben1 | apartments including power does seem strange | [21:38] |
| *** | ben1 is now known as mercutio | [21:39] |
| mercutio | in some situations where people get power included it's just because they can't meter it | [21:39] |
| staticsafe | i live in an apartment with water+electricity included as well, it used to be common here especially in older buildings
most new contracts/agreements are not like that, and are metered | [21:52] |
| .... (idle for 19mn) | ||
| mnathani_ | yea, heat+water+electricity and most maintenance as well all included | [22:11] |
| ...... (idle for 27mn) | ||
| mercutio | i don't get paying for water
it seems silly to me we're paying for water here but it varies by city | [22:38] |
| ............ (idle for 59mn) | ||
| dne | mercutio: small apartment, with gas stove :) | [23:38] |
| mercutio | gas hot water too? | [23:38] |
| dne | nah, hot/cold water, heating etc is included in "rent" | [23:41] |
| mercutio | ahh | [23:41] |
| dne | (housing cooperative so not really rent, but "monthly fee for shared stuff") | [23:45] |
| mercutio | ahh yip
is it some kind of central heating? | [23:54] |
| dne | district heating even | [23:59] |
| ↑back Search ←Prev date Next date→ Show only urls | (Click on time to select a line by its url) |
