[04:15] https://twitter.com/arpnetworks/status/709698530714071040 [04:15] TWITTER: Web-based out-of-band console for VMs is now live; see the Portal and click on your VPS service. (Tue Mar 15 11:11:29 +0000 2016) [06:24] *** KILLALLHUMANS01 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [06:24] *** BryceBot has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [06:25] *** KILLALLHUMANS01 has joined #arpnetworks [06:25] *** KILLALLHUMANS01 has quit IRC (Changing host) [06:25] *** KILLALLHUMANS01 has joined #arpnetworks [06:25] *** KILLALLHUMANS01 has quit IRC (Changing host) [06:25] *** KILLALLHUMANS01 has joined #arpnetworks [06:25] *** dne has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [06:25] *** staticsafe has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [06:25] *** dne has joined #arpnetworks [06:30] *** BryceBot has joined #arpnetworks [06:38] *** staticsafe has joined #arpnetworks [08:59] *** acf__ has joined #arpnetworks [09:01] *** acf__ has quit IRC (Client Quit) [09:02] *** acf__ has joined #arpnetworks [09:03] *** acf__ is now known as acf__1 [09:03] *** acf_ is now known as acf__ [09:03] *** acf__1 is now known as acf_ [09:03] *** acf__ has quit IRC (Quit: leaving) [09:23] *** meingtsla has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) [10:08] *** meingtsla has joined #arpnetworks [12:00] does the web based vnc still need a reboot of the VPS? [12:02] Note: If your VPS has not been hard rebooted (full shutdown + boot) since we've released this feature, then you must do so now, or else it won't work. This is only required once. [12:02] I see that now [13:42] .... Web-based out-of-band console for VMs is now live; see the Portal and click on your VPS service. [13:42] what does that even mean? [13:58] RandalSchwartz: you can access VNC from inside the portal. [13:58] oh... cool [13:58] except for dedi's right? [13:58] nathani: if it works, it works, if it doesn't then you probably need full reboot :) [14:01] well yeah except for dedicated servers. [14:01] i wish we could do dedicated too :) [14:28] Of course except for dedicated servers since they don't have VNC :P [14:39] It would be amazing if there was some way to do that for dedi's [14:39] That's what she said!! [14:40] lol [15:01] up_the_irons: Adder IP KVMs use VNC for their control mechanism, so would work with the web vnc client you're using. But they're not cheap! [15:05] plett: but is it "real" VNC or do you need to use their client? Supermicro IPMI also appears to use VNC (or at least its port) but won't work with a regular VNC client. [15:09] I'm fairly sure it's proper vnc [15:12] i was trying to do research :) [15:13] supermicro have different vendors they use [15:13] but apparently it's tls vnc with some stuff on top [15:13] i'm not sure how the authentication works [15:44] i tried it before with xtightvncviewer and failed miserably [16:35] Strictly, SuperMicro (among others) use RFB, which happens to be the same inside protocol that VNC uses - but VNC is more than just RFB [16:36] i.e. VNC is vnc auth + rfb [16:36] (it's why you can sometimes make vnc clients work) [16:54] interesting [17:14] *** tabthorpe has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [17:15] up_the_irons: Given that 1TB SSDs are coming down down in price, and 128GB SSDs seem positively ancient by comparison, any plans for ARP to update the SSD-upgrade option for dedicated servers? Do you still have stock you need to burn through first? (Just curious - and I know ARP offers "custom" SSD upgrades too) [17:16] * brycec is just sitting here with a $200 960GB SSD dd'ing data back and forth for the heck of it, and it got me thinking. [17:16] brycec: yeah we're going to be updating that soon [17:17] Awesome. I'll keep that in mind for the future. [17:18] :) [17:18] (We're running Splunk, among other things, on our dedicated machine and it could benefit from better disk IO) [17:18] (Not that it doesn't handle just fine on raidz1, but it could do even better...) [17:19] for sure [17:19] s/raidz1/mirror/ [17:19] (Not that it doesn't handle just fine on mirror, but it could do even better...) [17:21] *** tabthorpe has joined #arpnetworks [17:21] *** tabthorpe has quit IRC (Changing host) [17:21] *** tabthorpe has joined #arpnetworks [18:15] anyone develop with ember.js here? [18:55] I'm learning Angular... seems more fully featured. [18:56] ..... http://voidcanvas.com/why-angularjs-is-generally-better-than-emberjs-and-backbonejs/ [18:57] also, I can roll my knowledge over to AngularDart, and stop writing anything in JS :) [19:02] ah ja, angular is also good [19:02] *yeah [19:04] plus, hey, it's google [19:04] and they also have polymer [19:04] So it'll just disappear at any moment? [19:05] they work together nicely [19:05] heh [19:05] lol [19:05] I've been hearing a lot of good things about React lately. [19:05] I've also used, and been happy with, Angular (v1). [19:05] React would probably be what I would use on a new project. [19:05] no, I've talked to the dart people, and they're pretty much the golden child inside google... many internal projects. [19:05] and the dart people work closely with angular and dart [19:05] s/and dart/and polymer/ [19:05] and the dart people work closely with angular and polymer [19:06] there we go [19:06] forgot there was a bot for it [19:06] there are "google materials" templates for example [19:07] i like randal's idea to stop writing anything in JS :) [19:07] Randal even, sorry. [19:07] so that whole material design stuff which is making some waves is nearly trivial in angular/polymer [19:07] ... https://material.angularjs.org/latest/demo/autocomplete [19:07] man, so many choices these days... [19:08] react is more of a lib than a framework [19:08] react is one-way dataflow [19:08] so if you don't write anything in js, what do you write it in? [19:08] angular is two-way [19:08] Dart! [19:08] ah ok [19:09] this angular demo does look nice. [19:09] google is commited to making Dart a peer language for angular and polymer [19:09] and is actually being used internally by a number of projects. [19:09] so angularjs and angular-dart will be interoperable [19:10] Dart is still amazing to me, and has legs [19:10] That's what she said!! [19:10] heh [19:10] can be used in all modern browsers, *or* to completely replace node.js [19:11] except dart can actually use all your cores, unlike node.js [19:13] so do sites like facebook, gmail etc take advantage of multiple cores? [19:13] I'm sure they do with server-side stuff [19:13] quick question: are the ARP metal boxes supposed to have two disks? [19:14] i was under the impression that in general web browsing doesn't really scale that well for cores. [19:14] No wait. [19:14] acf: depends which of them you order [19:14] acf_: Only if you're paying for 2 disks [19:14] mixing ideas [19:14] the bottom end dedicated doesn't. [19:14] unless the code uses web-workers for client side, one core is enough [19:14] I was talking about server-side [19:14] ^ Stock is single disk. You can upgrade to 2, 3, or 4 disks. [19:14] i've noticed web browsing getting slower and slower over time [19:14] ah, for some reason I thought two disks for redundancy was default [19:14] for like 5 years :) [19:15] wait... I don't have a raid? [19:15] acf: have you got a dedicated with 1? [19:15] yea [19:15] just wanted to make sure one of my disks didn't disappear :) [19:15] oh, this is about dedi [19:15] yeah, you can always get another added on [20:51] *** dj_goku_ has quit IRC (Quit: Lost terminal)