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| up_the_irons | https://twitter.com/arpnetworks/status/709698530714071040 | [04:15] |
| BryceBot | TWITTER: Web-based out-of-band console for VMs is now live; see the Portal and click on your VPS service. (Tue Mar 15 11:11:29 +0000 2016) | [04:15] |
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| nathani | does the web based vnc still need a reboot of the VPS?
Note: If your VPS has not been hard rebooted (full shutdown + boot) since we've released this feature, then you must do so now, or else it won't work. This is only required once. I see that now | [12:00] |
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| RandalSchwartz | .... Web-based out-of-band console for VMs is now live; see the Portal and click on your VPS service.
what does that even mean? | [13:42] |
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| mercutio | RandalSchwartz: you can access VNC from inside the portal. | [13:58] |
| RandalSchwartz | oh... cool
except for dedi's right? | [13:58] |
| mercutio | nathani: if it works, it works, if it doesn't then you probably need full reboot :)
well yeah except for dedicated servers. i wish we could do dedicated too :) | [13:58] |
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| brycec | Of course except for dedicated servers since they don't have VNC :P | [14:28] |
| up_the_irons | It would be amazing if there was some way to do that for dedi's | [14:39] |
| BryceBot | That's what she said!! | [14:39] |
| up_the_irons | lol | [14:40] |
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| plett | up_the_irons: Adder IP KVMs use VNC for their control mechanism, so would work with the web vnc client you're using. But they're not cheap! | [15:01] |
| up_the_irons | plett: but is it "real" VNC or do you need to use their client? Supermicro IPMI also appears to use VNC (or at least its port) but won't work with a regular VNC client. | [15:05] |
| plett | I'm fairly sure it's proper vnc | [15:09] |
| mercutio | i was trying to do research :)
supermicro have different vendors they use but apparently it's tls vnc with some stuff on top i'm not sure how the authentication works | [15:12] |
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| up_the_irons | i tried it before with xtightvncviewer and failed miserably | [15:44] |
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| brycec | Strictly, SuperMicro (among others) use RFB, which happens to be the same inside protocol that VNC uses - but VNC is more than just RFB
i.e. VNC is vnc auth + rfb (it's why you can sometimes make vnc clients work) | [16:35] |
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| up_the_irons | interesting | [16:54] |
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| brycec | up_the_irons: Given that 1TB SSDs are coming down down in price, and 128GB SSDs seem positively ancient by comparison, any plans for ARP to update the SSD-upgrade option for dedicated servers? Do you still have stock you need to burn through first? (Just curious - and I know ARP offers "custom" SSD upgrades too)
brycec is just sitting here with a $200 960GB SSD dd'ing data back and forth for the heck of it, and it got me thinking. | [17:15] |
| up_the_irons | brycec: yeah we're going to be updating that soon | [17:16] |
| brycec | Awesome. I'll keep that in mind for the future. | [17:17] |
| up_the_irons | :) | [17:18] |
| brycec | (We're running Splunk, among other things, on our dedicated machine and it could benefit from better disk IO)
(Not that it doesn't handle just fine on raidz1, but it could do even better...) | [17:18] |
| up_the_irons | for sure | [17:19] |
| brycec | s/raidz1/mirror/ | [17:19] |
| BryceBot | <brycec> (Not that it doesn't handle just fine on mirror, but it could do even better...) | [17:19] |
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| up_the_irons | anyone develop with ember.js here? | [18:15] |
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| RandalSchwartz | I'm learning Angular... seems more fully featured.
..... http://voidcanvas.com/why-angularjs-is-generally-better-than-emberjs-and-backbonejs/ also, I can roll my knowledge over to AngularDart, and stop writing anything in JS :) | [18:55] |
| up_the_irons | ah ja, angular is also good
*yeah | [19:02] |
| RandalSchwartz | plus, hey, it's google
and they also have polymer | [19:04] |
| mhoran | So it'll just disappear at any moment? | [19:04] |
| RandalSchwartz | they work together nicely
heh | [19:05] |
| up_the_irons | lol | [19:05] |
| mhoran | I've been hearing a lot of good things about React lately.
I've also used, and been happy with, Angular (v1). React would probably be what I would use on a new project. | [19:05] |
| RandalSchwartz | no, I've talked to the dart people, and they're pretty much the golden child inside google... many internal projects.
and the dart people work closely with angular and dart s/and dart/and polymer/ | [19:05] |
| BryceBot | <RandalSchwartz> and the dart people work closely with angular and polymer | [19:05] |
| RandalSchwartz | there we go
forgot there was a bot for it there are "google materials" templates for example | [19:06] |
| mercutio | i like randal's idea to stop writing anything in JS :)
Randal even, sorry. | [19:07] |
| RandalSchwartz | so that whole material design stuff which is making some waves is nearly trivial in angular/polymer
... https://material.angularjs.org/latest/demo/autocomplete | [19:07] |
| up_the_irons | man, so many choices these days... | [19:07] |
| RandalSchwartz | react is more of a lib than a framework
react is one-way dataflow | [19:08] |
| up_the_irons | so if you don't write anything in js, what do you write it in? | [19:08] |
| RandalSchwartz | angular is two-way
Dart! | [19:08] |
| up_the_irons | ah ok | [19:08] |
| mercutio | this angular demo does look nice. | [19:09] |
| RandalSchwartz | google is commited to making Dart a peer language for angular and polymer
and is actually being used internally by a number of projects. so angularjs and angular-dart will be interoperable Dart is still amazing to me, and has legs | [19:09] |
| BryceBot | That's what she said!! | [19:10] |
| RandalSchwartz | heh
can be used in all modern browsers, *or* to completely replace node.js except dart can actually use all your cores, unlike node.js | [19:10] |
| mercutio | so do sites like facebook, gmail etc take advantage of multiple cores? | [19:13] |
| RandalSchwartz | I'm sure they do with server-side stuff | [19:13] |
| acf_ | quick question: are the ARP metal boxes supposed to have two disks? | [19:13] |
| mercutio | i was under the impression that in general web browsing doesn't really scale that well for cores. | [19:14] |
| RandalSchwartz | No wait. | [19:14] |
| mercutio | acf: depends which of them you order | [19:14] |
| brycec | acf_: Only if you're paying for 2 disks | [19:14] |
| RandalSchwartz | mixing ideas | [19:14] |
| mercutio | the bottom end dedicated doesn't. | [19:14] |
| RandalSchwartz | unless the code uses web-workers for client side, one core is enough
I was talking about server-side | [19:14] |
| brycec | ^ Stock is single disk. You can upgrade to 2, 3, or 4 disks. | [19:14] |
| mercutio | i've noticed web browsing getting slower and slower over time | [19:14] |
| acf_ | ah, for some reason I thought two disks for redundancy was default | [19:14] |
| mercutio | for like 5 years :) | [19:14] |
| RandalSchwartz | wait... I don't have a raid? | [19:15] |
| mercutio | acf: have you got a dedicated with 1? | [19:15] |
| acf_ | yea
just wanted to make sure one of my disks didn't disappear :) | [19:15] |
| RandalSchwartz | oh, this is about dedi | [19:15] |
| mercutio | yeah, you can always get another added on | [19:15] |
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