#arpnetworks 2016-03-05,Sat

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mnathani_mercutio: I know I have asked before, but could you remind me of that site that gives you a score based on your ssl certificate?
was it https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/
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brycecMore than likely, yes
(Since you mentioned scoring)
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mercutioyeh it would have been [00:59]
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mnathani_whats an elastic interconnect ? [01:31]
mercutioisn't that an amazon thing? [01:31]
mnathani_I tried searching and the term didnt come up as an amazon thing, although someone was mentioning it as an Amazon related service provided by Megaport [01:36]
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brycechttps://www.megaport.com/services/features [01:52]
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Gazbygood morning everyone
could someone point me in the right direction to cancel a service please?
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mkbGazby, support@arpnetworks.com [08:17]
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Gazbythanks mkb
is that standard, i couldn't even find any documentation indicating how to cancel a service
after i started getting invoice overdue reminders when my CC expired, I went to cancel it and couldn't find how, figured i would eventually get cut off
it's still running five months later
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spoke to garry, all sorted, thanks again [11:26]
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mercutiowhat letter will ubuntu 18.04 start with?
mnathani_: did you figure out the interconnect thing?
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brycec@google ubuntu 18.04 [13:03]
BryceBot11,700 total results returned for 'ubuntu 18.04', here's 3
Download Ubuntu Server | Download | Ubuntu (http://www.ubuntu.com/download/server) The Long Term Support version of Ubuntu Server, including the Icehouse release of OpenStack and support guaranteed until April 2019 — 64-bit only.

Ubuntu 18.04 LTS to Be Fully in Sync with Debian, Without Ubuntu ... (https://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/45ep1p/ubuntu_1804_lts_to_be_fully_in_sync_with_debian/) Feb 12, 2016 ... inaccurateUbuntu 18.04 LTS to Be Fully in Sync with Debian, Without Ubuntu Specific Patches (plus.google.com). submitted 19 days ago by ...
Release end of life | Ubuntu (http://www.ubuntu.com/info/release-end-of-life) When an Ubuntu release reaches its end of life it receives no further maintenance updates, including critical security upgrades. It is highly recommended that ...
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brycecwell that was less useful than I would have liked... [13:03]
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mercutioheh
i was just thinking they were going to run out of letters
well before ubuntu 18.04; but lts i was more curious about
oh ubuntu 18.04 may be called ballsy baboon
or busy beaver
so yeah they're going back to the start
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brycecAw I was hoping they'd wrap into numbers, base-36 style [13:40]
mnathani_mercutio: the link brycec posted describes it using a bunch of other keywords I dont understand - but yea its an amazon or cloud based SDN Networking thing :-) [13:53]
bryceclol [13:53]
mercutiomnathani_: i've heard of megaport [13:53]
brycecmnathani_: Are you familiar with datacenter interconnects? [13:53]
mercutiotheir idea is bandwidth capacity on demand [13:53]
brycec(typically other cabinets, other POP's in the datacenter, etc) [13:54]
mercutiowell dedicated bandwidth capacity on demand [13:54]
mnathani_is that like a dedicated link or vpn between datacenters [13:54]
mercutioso like say arp wanted to get gigabit to ams-ix
they could just fire it up,
then say they want to upgrade to 2 gigabit they could just raise it
then 3 ..
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brycecWell the idea of an "Elastic Interconnect" is just that, but "cloud scale" (they have the infrastructure and turn on the right switches to bring you traffic) [13:55]
mercutioyeah it's like mpls [13:55]
mnathani_ahh, that makes more sense [13:55]
brycecIt's really nothing new, what they're selling, just buzz-wordier [13:55]
mercutioso there'll just be /30 at each [13:55]
brycecAnd possibly using fancy new tech like SDN [13:55]
mercutioerr at each end, and you won't see the inbetween hops
potentially bryce
but not necessarily.
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brycecmercutio: "And *possibly* using..." [13:56]
mercutioyeh
i'm agreeing with you but rewording, sorry :)
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brycecWhether or not they use the tech and buzzwords they throw around on their website, who really knows (besides them) [13:57]
mercutioit's not meant to matter
you the consumer are meant to just eat what they serve
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brycecUnless you're the type of customer that wants to be using the hippest new thing. [13:57]
mercutioi'm not a huge fan of sdn yet :) [13:57]
brycecIn which case yeah you go with the provider that uses $HipThing [13:57]
mercutiobut i am thinking that having open source switches is a wonderful idea [13:58]
mnathani_someone does linux based switches/routers already
cant remember the name
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mercutiomnathani_: a few do
most are vxworks though
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mnathani_so you can install apps and do like gigabit captures eetc [13:58]
brycecAnyone can, you can start with just openvswitch and a grapload of NICs
*crapload
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mercutiobrycec: you run out of pci-e lanes quickly
you can't do 48 10gbe ports on a pc :)
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brycecDepends on the scale of switch you're looking to do :p [13:59]
mnathani_I think it was arista: https://eos.arista.com/linux-as-a-switch-operating-system-five-lessons-learned/ [13:59]
mercutioand if want to do gbe why bother? [13:59]
brycecFor that matter, I have come across quad-NIC cards that can switch on-board, simply controlled by the host [14:00]
mercutioyeah that's a good way to go [14:01]
brycecSo you can have 40GBps fabric among 5 ports, but if you have to packet switch to another card, you chew up host bus bandwidth
But I'm not in that world, these days, nor do I need anything truly fancy like SDN. So meh.
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mercutio40gbe is actually a little hard
100gbe i think you'd really struggle to do on anything right now
pci-e3 x16 would be kind of near it's limits
pci-e 3.0
well i mean to really push it to it's limits :)
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brycec*its [14:03]
mercutiotrue
40gbe is coming down in cost though
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mnathani_what do you do with 40gbe if your disks (ssd based) can't support that throughput [14:10]
mercutiothen you buy more disks
nvme ssd's do like 2 gigabytes/sec read
but right now 40gbe is usually used for aggregation
pushing over 10gbe isn't that hard, but running 40gbe to it's limit is a bit harder
http://www.mellanox.com/page/products_dyn?product_family=201&
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