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[20:14] @weather yyz [20:14] Toronto-Pearson International, Ontario: Overcast ☁ 30°F (-1°C), Humidity: 64%, Wind: From the NNE at 4 MPH -- For more details including the forecast and almanac, see http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=43.67722321,-79.63055420 or re-request this with: @weather -v yyz [20:14] @weather lgb [20:14] There is 1 weather alert in effect for your area! There is a Beach Hazard Statement. [20:14] Long Beach, CA: Clear 57°F (14°C), Humidity: 57%, Wind: From the NW at 4 MPH -- For more details including the forecast and almanac, see http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=33.81179047,-118.14716339 or re-request this with: @weather -v lgb [20:16] @weather akl [20:16] Auckland International, New Zealand: Light Drizzle 73°F (23°C), Humidity: 78%, Wind: From the ENE at 12 MPH -- For more details including the forecast and almanac, see http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=-37.00805664,174.79167175 or re-request this with: @weather -v akl [20:16] i have this feeling it's going to rain hard here shortly [20:17] yeah things are quiet mnathani_ [20:24] whats the difference between an ARP timeout and a MAC timeout? [20:25] somone mentioned it on a mailing list in regards to rules at an IXP [20:26] *** nathani has joined #arpnetworks [20:28] mnathani_: They refer to different things. An ARP table associates IPv4 addresses with MAC addresses. A MAC address table associates MAC addresses with switchports. [20:29] layer 3 vs layer 2 info ? [20:31] What about it? [20:37] thanks, it makes more sense now [20:41] mnathani is a sponge for information :) [20:41] there are now 3 of me in here [20:41] :-) [20:42] Why? [20:42] weechat from home, mirc from home and weechat from my ARP vps [20:42] I just use tmux :) [20:42] as your IRC client? [20:42] sometimes i move the tmux between 2 of my 3 monitors. [20:42] well i use weechat inside tmux [20:42] and can attach/detach [20:43] did you figure out the font size/ resolution issue [20:43] ? [20:43] nope [20:43] i just press ctrl-up/ctrl-down [20:43] it's not too painful. [20:43] you could open 2 terminals one on each monitor and keep attach / detach [20:43] it's weird how low res 1440p is feeling now though [20:43] with the font set to what you need [20:44] oh i do use multiple terminals to attach/detach etc. [20:44] my current issue is that i keep squeezing the screen to be like 3/4 big with 1/4 for other stuff [20:44] and then things start looking weird and condensed [20:45] i've started raising my font sizes in general. [20:45] with multiple monitors, it suddenly seems more important to have large text :) [20:45] although my favourite monitor died :( [20:46] i think it's the logic board rather than panel. but they want $130 US for a replacement. [20:47] so atm i'm just getting another one, and then i want to see if there's obvious damage and can get someone to fix it. [20:47] err a whole 'nother monitor. [20:50] but it does mean i'll probably just go to 3x1440p monitors [20:50] oh the 4k died? [20:50] nah [20:50] 1440p did [20:50] i'm using my spare 1440p atm :) [20:51] *cough* [20:51] i have a lot of monitors [20:51] the 4k input lag was annoying me [20:51] it's like 50 msec input lag [20:51] so it's like the difference between 150 and 200 msec ping [20:52] you don't notice for local things like irc, but for remote ssh it's really obvious [20:53] there are various "bands" of latency that people notice. like i never found isdn that laggy for ssh, when it has around 50 msec latency, but i found dialup noticable when it has around 100 msec latency [20:53] but that was back on crts that have low latency.. [20:54] dialup was worse because it's more variable too. [20:54] if the latency is fixed I suppose its better than variable latency [20:54] yea [20:54] you could get used to dialup latency pretty well [20:54] until you started using it at the same time as downloading.. [20:54] 3g latency is really annoying like that. [20:59] i mean it's fast, then suddenly slow. it too is a lot worse when you download. [21:00] 4g in my limited experience wasn't so bad. 3g is actually meant to adapt as you start using more bandwidth, so it may actually work better with a "pulse" [21:00] have you guys heard about the TPPA? [21:01] @google tppa [21:01] 592,000 total results returned for 'tppa', here's 3 [21:01] TPPA - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TPPA) TPPA may refer to: Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement, a trade agreement; Treponema pallidum particle agglutination assay, a test for the causative agent of ... [21:01] Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement (TPPA) (http://fta.miti.gov.my/index.php/pages/view/71) Sesi Sesi Taklimat TPPA kepada Penjawat Awam oleh YB Minister MITI [January 18, ... Summary Of The Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement [October 5, 2015]. [21:01] Trans-Pacific Partnership - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans-Pacific_Partnership) Twelve countries participated in negotiations for the Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement: the four parties to the 2005 Trans-Pacific Strategic Economic ... [21:01] is that a no? [21:01] I guess its none of those, lol [21:01] it's between new zealand australia us, canada, and some other countries. [21:01] it is all of those. [21:01] there were all these protests in my city yesterday. [21:02] I thought you were referring to something technical and network related [21:02] but i had a feeling that other people didn't hear about it as much as we do :) [21:02] well it could have technical ramifications. [21:02] but mostly to do with things like region-blocking software etc. [21:04] i don't understand it that well, i was just curious how awareness of it was in other countries that were part of it. [21:30] trade agreement among twelve Pacific Rim countries signed on 4 February 2016 in Auckland, New Zealand after 7 years of negotiations, which has not entered into force [21:31] it was signed today [21:32] a deal opponents warn could eliminate Canadian jobs and damage some sectors of the economy. [22:30] yeah [22:31] it's hard to know what it'll do [22:31] some people say that it'll make things like DMCA start applying internationally [22:31] and that it'll extend copyrights, and increase drug costs. [23:00] apparently the actual legal document that is going to come into effect is over 500, possibly 1000 pages of legal language [23:00] governing all sorts of trade stuff [23:00] I doubt many folks have actually read it cover to cover