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| mnathani_ | Google Chrome needs to come up with a better way to manage multiple tabs | [00:17] |
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| kellytk | I'm with you there | [00:55] |
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| mercutio | his whole Ian Murdock story is a bit disturbing.
this even | [14:56] |
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| mnathani | Possible suicide? | [15:48] |
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| BryceBot | <mercutio> this whole Ian Murdock story is a bit disturbing. | [16:04] |
| mnathani | :-) | [16:04] |
| mercutio | yeh that's what i meant by this even | [16:04] |
| mnathani | Saw that after | [16:05] |
| mercutio | yeh it's murky at best.
doesn't look like anyone can know for sure what happened yet. but however you look at it, it's like the guy behind debian dying under questionable circumstances. and even if some people don't like debian, no-one can argue they didn't completely and utterly change the landscape of distributions. i don't think any of the other distributions early on even tried to only include free software. like there was "free" software back then that wasn't licensed properly. the ideology is kind of why debian was my first distro.. | [16:05] |
| mnathani | I think mine was Mandrake / Mandriva | [16:10] |
| mercutio | ahh
i'm quite liking arch these days. i think mandrake's not around anymore? | [16:12] |
| mnathani | https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandriva_Linux | [16:19] |
| BryceBot | Error in Wikipedia's response: | [16:19] |
| mnathani | Last release 4 years ago | [16:19] |
| mhoran | I like Arch documentation. But I still run Debian. | [16:30] |
| mnathani | Why does ARP run Ubuntu rather than Debian?
On the kvr hosts ofcourse | [16:33] |
| mercutio | i'm not sure.
i suspect it's because ubuntu had kvm first.. | [16:35] |
| mhoran | Lts probably? And at the time that arp got started, Ubuntu was packaging kvm and new kernels before Debian
Yup | [16:36] |
| mercutio | that said ubuntu works fine, i don't have anything against ubuntu for servers. | [16:36] |
| mhoran | Pretty much interchangeable. | [16:36] |
| mercutio | ubuntu 16.04 is bringing in zfs
but it seems not on the installer.. that said, zfs still doesn't deal well with low memory, so it's still not so great for vps's :( i think freebsd is a bit better than linux for that, .. | [16:38] |
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| trobotham | p. excited for 16.04 | [21:39] |
| BryceBot | That's what she said!! | [21:39] |
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| mercutio | it should also have linux 4.3 | [22:41] |
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| JC_Denton | as someone who hasn't really tracked Ubuntu, but runs a lot of Debian, what's most exciting?
zfs? | [23:03] |
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| mercutio | i don't think anything is particularly exciting other than being systemd, with recent userland.
trusty isn't terrible. and you can use zfs on ubuntu trusty with external zfs stuff anyway i think i'm most excited about having new zsh version :) the new zsh version means you can cut and paste things into a shell and it doesn't have implicit enter - you press enter to push it all through | [23:54] |
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