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| mnathani | mnathani drops a pin | [22:09] |
| mercutio | the world explodes.
mercutio wonders why he touches old hardware; another computer with grub issues this time i just get a cursor in the top left and no information :) | [22:19] |
| mkb | grub2? | [22:20] |
| mercutio | yip
have you seen it before? | [22:20] |
| mkb | nope
but good luck getting grub2 to do anything useful | [22:21] |
| mercutio | weirdly i found the fastest sata drives i've ever seen in an old server | [22:22] |
| mkb | I've spent hours learning to configure it to change the damn default kernel | [22:22] |
| mercutio | oh that's quite easy | [22:22] |
| mkb | if you know how tell me | [22:22] |
| mercutio | was about to cut and paste
but hit the tab up top hangon #GRUB_DEFAULT="Arch Linux, with Linux 3.19.0blink" you do something like that with just the name | [22:22] |
| mkb | where? it's got like 20 config files now | [22:23] |
| mercutio | in /etc/default/grub
then you update your grub | [22:23] |
| mkb | how? | [22:24] |
| mercutio | in arch it's grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg
in ubuntu it's update-grub i suspect grub-mkconfig -o . .. etc will work on both | [22:25] |
| mkb | and it seems to be grub2-mkconfig on rhel | [22:26] |
| mercutio | looks like i have to move my cables around
the bios doesn't like booting from 3rd disk heh yeh it can vary a bit which is why i didn't try to say how :) | [22:27] |
| mkb | yeah and the only docs are in random places on google unfortunately | [22:28] |
| mercutio | heh | [22:28] |
| mkb | make install in the kernel sources knows how to modify the config | [22:28] |
| mercutio | yeah i'm not a huge fan but it tends to work ok when it works. | [22:28] |
| mkb | (yes I work on the kernel but don't know how to set the default) | [22:28] |
| mercutio | ahh i just copy mine to right place and do update-grub / grub-mkconfig
yeah it took me a little digging it actually changed :/ ubuntu used to have this annoying default of using savedefault and it would always wait for a key press because it couldn't update the save thing. otherwise lots of things like to default to newest kernel which if you're fiddling with kernel stuff is annoying :) | [22:28] |
| mkb | I think it tries to remember what you selected at the last boot prompt | [22:31] |
| mercutio | yeh that used to be the case | [22:31] |
| mkb | rhel is perpetually old | [22:31] |
| mercutio | think people generally moved away from that
arch has #GRUB_SAVEDEFAULT="true" but i think it defaults to false. oh it may still save | [22:31] |
| mkb | but that means I have to walk down the hall to the servers and hook everything up to toggle it | [22:31] |
| mercutio | you have to set that GRUB_DEFAULT to the saved entry if you want that think.
yeah have you got AMT? | [22:32] |
| mkb | I don't have a savedefault line
we have something based on xcat it doesn't work very well | [22:32] |
| mercutio | AMT let's you do serial console on cheap hardware :)
like desktops so uhh in theory you can have grub output to serial and you can just access that over network in practice grub has a bug :/ | [22:33] |
| mkb | this thing stops and says waiting for ISOL or something 75% of the time you use it | [22:34] |
| mercutio | oh
it's a proper server? | [22:34] |
| mkb | oh yeah | [22:34] |
| mercutio | desktops tend to boot quicker
if you're playing with kernel stuff like my hp 6300 sff boots fast. | [22:34] |
| mkb | oh that's another source of unending annoyance | [22:34] |
| mercutio | yes :) | [22:34] |
| mkb | I hate dell's BIOS
the damn thing stops and waits for a keypress sometimes | [22:35] |
| mercutio | hahaha
i've been thinking about getting another hp 6300 | [22:35] |
| mkb | we've got a monitor in the rack but it's just a little too short | [22:35] |
| mercutio | they're a lot more stress free for tesing stuff hah | [22:35] |
| mkb | the cable I mean | [22:35] |
| mercutio | is it server?
all dell servers have ipmi support for serial redirection and shit at least | [22:35] |
| mkb | so they tell me
sometimes I can do this work in a VM | [22:36] |
| BryceBot | That's what she said!! | [22:36] |
| mercutio | yeh that'd be easier
you coudl use vt-d? if you need access to pci-e card | [22:36] |
| mkb | but you need to test with real hw interrupt timings and such
nope.. fs driver | [22:37] |
| mercutio | ahh
cool | [22:37] |
| mkb | difficult concurrency bugs...
and linus hasn't even yelled at us once | [22:37] |
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