mnathani_: brycec mercutio plett: different subnets in Germany. No link in between, so no VLAN sharing. If you think about it, that wouldn't be a good idea. Too easy to split brain with a link 9000km wide. Even with tunneling, I wouldn't feel comfortable with such a setup, but don't let me stop you guys from making your own tunnels ;) i have l2 between dc's much better :) and ofcoz l3 aswell :) mrsaint: vpls? mpls kinda.. so routed? yeah but in stockholm i have direct fiber between the datacenters.. between two in stockholm? yeah but we are needed at other locations soo i have 3 rings connecting the 2 importent dcs. germany is closer than i thought it was i suppose it's all the land etc that puts latency up hehe yeah 22ms to ams 27 to fra 28 to lon :) 170 ms to my vps at arp hehe and amazing 303ms to bangkok :) That's what she said!! bangkok varies here quite a bit i think it's about 180 to 220 uk to china routes are seriously bad given distance. often 340msec+ with loss ah china is always slow :) hmm i dunno, i could do 10 megabit from here to china fine. lucky I do peer with the provider my Bangkok hosting has :) thats really nice. :) but it's weird they had some strange shaping stuff i think china has a great firewall :) india to thailand is bad as well i think india is better sometimes for europe did you hear about that new cable across the top of the globe? yeah volvoit that I do consulting for has alot of ppl in india and they work mainly against gothenborg.. and it works well. google ? :) trying to find it ah not much heard of that one no. but 300ms and less then 500kb/s in bw.. is the problem for me from thailand. My 3g in thai is faster then my colobox :) http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/122989-1-5-billion-the-cost-of-cutting-london-toyko-latency-by-60ms that's one such one but there was another i think too ok hmm that's still 170msec from uk to japan yeah there was some idea to go uk to us via alaska/canada if i recall most of them end up in NYC I guess. yeh he.net got screwed by that flooding there's meant to be some new transatlantic reducing latency by like 6 msec or something too aeconnect scheduled for dec 2015 ok.. it's all driven by stock traders hah at least that's what they say there's also hibernia express Im anyways happy with the latency there is.. not that I care much.. As long as my bw is there and I have no packetloss :) yeah i'd be much more worried about thailand latency than 6 msec less between europe/us yeah