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_iwc has quit IRC (Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))) brycec: data prison o/ ben3: i get to be #3 now ***: ben3 is now known as mercutio brycec: return -ETOOMANY; mercutio: oh brycec cloudflare peering is up brycec: Ooooh nifty
Looks like arp->any2ix.coresite.com mercutio: yeah
any2ix is peering exchange brycec: Right. Such a short, sexy route
There were more ARP hops than anything else
174.136.103.129 s7.lax.arpnetworks.com r1.lax.arpnetworks.com any2ix.coresite.com 104.27.134.131(dst) mercutio: heh i have one less hop from home
the path back should actually be one hop less brycec: IPv6 is still even shorter :)
Heh not that mtr shows that up_the_irons: "short, sexy route" LOL mercutio: wow cloudflare has a lot of servers in china
more locations than they have in the US ***: RandalSchwartz has joined #arpnetworks
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RandalSchwartz has joined #arpnetworks brycec: more locations for more people? (population) mercutio: yeah it must be popular there :) ***: ChanServ sets mode: +o toddf_
toddf_ is now known as toddf mnathani_: so, the new ARP datacenter is going to reside in a prison? mercutio: https://twitter.com/arpnetworks/status/664435444847874048 BryceBot: TWITTER: Got a free beer at Data Center World Frankfurt 2015 Expo. Kostenloses Bier?! #dcwf2015 https://t.co/t5fDqcS98j (Wed Nov 11 13:32:09 +0000 2015) mercutio: maybe it'll go somewhere else? milki: prisons are probably cheap. land value tends to be much lower mercutio: yeah i bet the land where arp is at is worth a lot. RandalSchwartz: so... I have a karma go hotspot. They allow "guests" to get 100MB free if they submit contact info, and then I get 100MB free when that happens. They determine if it's a new "guest" by Mac address. I think you can see where this is going.
I'll never pay for network access again!
and it uses sprint, 3g, 4g, lte, which has a pretty solid coverage in the US. mercutio: 100mb won't last long RandalSchwartz: no, but then I type "newmac" and repeat.
I get 100mb as the fake user, and 100mb is added to my "legit" account.
so if I don't mind being interrupted, I stay as a series of "guests"
but if I need continuity I log in as "me"
I've been thinking through how they could block this, and I don't think they can.
except maybe round-trip confirmation of the email addresses I use as a guest.
or cookies. both of which are defeatable. brycec: That's roughly 28 zettabytes!
And if that rolls over daily, HOOOBOY! RandalSchwartz: I'm not sure how the hotspot stores MACs
I presume it's some sort of LRU cache brycec: Well even if it's 28ZB lifetime usage, you're doing pretty good RandalSchwartz: heh
I keep wondering if the Karma people will block this, but I don't think it's possible as long as they offer these passwordless hotspots to do lead generation
Ok.. just rolled over from one guest to another. Easy peasy.
and now my "legit" user got another 100MB.
and another @example.com address added to their lead database. :) mercutio: it seems abusive to me RandalSchwartz: abusing them? mercutio: yes
maybe it's a fixed table and you'll overload it :) RandalSchwartz: heh
yeah, I fully expect them to work this out eventually
but I don't know how they will. mercutio: and they'll be like why do all these users keep going to www.randalschwartz.com RandalSchwartz: I never go there, so there. :) mercutio: oh stonehenge.com :)
i googled after heh RandalSchwartz: but the pattern of my accesses might be a clue.
but that'd require a lot more data for the "guests" mercutio: there used to be phone numbers going around the place that when you rung them you'd get a dial tone in a different city
you could say it's just a phone number, but abusing it is probably strictly speaking still illegal
you'd think they'd have a password or something at least :)
they're probably not around anymore
people used to just ring all the phone numbers in an area code to see what was at the other end
hmm php7 coming out tomorrow brycec: Oh I didn't realize that every new mac resulted in a total of 200MB of data, so that's 56ZB :D (feels weird to see ZB as a unit) RandalSchwartz: heh brycec: I'm a bit surprised you aren't tunneling/VPNing though, if for no other reason than to alleviate interrupted connections.
I mean sure ARP doesn't give you 56ZB/month of bandwidth :/ mercutio: the internet won't go faster enough to download that much anyway RandalSchwartz: the login process after "newmac" has a pretty long cycle time. brycec: mercutio: yeah, 21PB/s mercutio: 21PB/sec?
what -: brycec was just figuring that mercutio: i bet he's lucky if he gets 20 megabit brycec: That's how fast you'd need to go to use 56ZB/month -: mercutio doesn't bet too much just in case brycec: I bet my life savings RandalSchwartz doesn't get 21PB/s through his hotspot
What *are* the fastest interlink speeds commonly used, 40gbps?
my mind is going numb figuring these astronomical numbers RandalSchwartz: heh
not at 5 megabit down/up brycec: (it would take 50 days to transfer 21PB over a 40gbps link, that's... nowhere near reaching 56ZB/month) RandalSchwartz: I'm back on my "legit" user, after having used 4 guest users mercutio: brycec: that's assuming you have hosts you can download at that speed from, and storage speed to save the data.
oh, have you guys ever tried dslreports for speed test?
it shows buffer bloat etc. and doesn't require flash like speedtest.net brycec: pr0n hosts are usually pretty well set for storage and transit...
I have not mercutio: i have minimal download buffer bloat, but 270 msec up ***: joepie91_ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
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