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| mnathani_ | whats a good wireless access point that supports 802.11ac? I don't need the router / NAT portion | [13:55] |
| Im looking at something like this: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=0ED-000J-00013CVF | [14:01] | |
| mercutio | so any2ix blew up briefly just then | [14:12] |
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| mercutio | i use a tp-link archer c7 myself
i find it fine. i just plug into lan port | [14:18] |
| mnathani_ | http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833704177&cm_re=tp-link_archer-_-33-704-177-_-Product
something like that ^ | [14:19] |
| mercutio | nope
oh hangon i was looking at first will look at second :) | [14:19] |
| mnathani_ | its a c7 so probably :-) | [14:20] |
| mercutio | yaeh like that except it was $60 US | [14:20] |
| mnathani_ | they tax us a lot here in Canada | [14:20] |
| mercutio | i got it last xmas i think
if you're not in a rush it might go on sale it's $93.82 US on amazon atm which tells me i bought it dec 13 so it probably came just after xmas and it was $58.99 the newer stuff may be better now | [14:20] |
| mnathani_ | I got a quote for cisco AP
like $500 | [14:22] |
| mercutio | i upgraded from unifi uap-ac
which is more expensive, but was making whining noises and actually went slower | [14:22] |
| brycec | lol if you're looking at "enterprise AP's" then you should start with Ubiquiti gear | [14:23] |
| mercutio | http://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-Networks-UniFi-Enterprise-System/dp/B00D80J2XU | [14:23] |
| BryceBot | Amazon: "Ubiquiti Networks UniFi AC Enterprise WiFi System - UAP-AC" | [14:23] |
| brycec | interesting | [14:23] |
| mercutio | so that's what i was using.
and yeah i prefer the tp-link the unifi one would run hot, and it would crash a lot and i had to reboot it and it would randomly stop working on one band can't remember if it was 2.4 or 5 i am wired for my desktops. i have two of the tp-links | [14:23] |
| brycec | Don't think I've ever heard bad things about Unifi gear, not that I've heard a ton | [14:24] |
| mercutio | and if using the tp-link as client at distnace can do 200 megabit easy.
brycec: the non ac stuff is better really unifi helps you when you want seamless handover etc. i did firmware upgrade but it was still a pita i went from like 1 megabit to 5 megabit with difficult to reach place with tp-link but it's one wall away from where i can get like 150 megabit but 150 megabit meant moving the router like a foot if you have non moving clients it's easier to get good speeds. like that room has a few areas that are not so great but generally if in good placement can get 100 megabit easy on single band 433 megabit 802.11ac and 200 to 250 megabit in same room my laptop does about 300 megabit or so 40MB/sec whatever that is 320 megabit real performance single thread. it was getting that speed from my proxy for package installs :) i could also get around 600 megabit in same room with two of them back to back. but nfs was way slower than with gigabit ethernet | [14:24] |
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| mnathani_ | mercutio: is your tp-link archer black or white? | [20:35] |
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| mercutio | black
are there white ones? it's v2 or v3? i can't remember which it's not v1 v1 doesn't work with openwrt. one of them has openwrt, the other doesn't. oh it's c8 that's white, c8 is broadcom rather than atheros with faster cpu. and i don't think is compatible with openwrt. | [21:59] |
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| mnathani_ | the store I went to today had 2 c7 one black one white
the guy there wasnt too sure of the difference other than the white was $10 more expensive setup was a breeze disabled dhcp, assigned an ip in my subnet, set wifi ssid name and password | [22:17] |
| mercutio | you got black? | [22:19] |
| mnathani_ | 15Megabyte / sec file transfer from wireless laptop downloading off wired gigabite pc | [22:19] |
| mercutio | that's pretty much what i did | [22:19] |
| mnathani_ | s/gigabite/gigabit | [22:19] |
| BryceBot | <mnathani_> 15Megabyte / sec file transfer from wireless laptop downloading off wired gigabit pc | [22:19] |
| mercutio | that's slow | [22:19] |
| mnathani_ | yea, I got black | [22:19] |
| mercutio | does the laptop have 802.11ac? | [22:19] |
| mnathani_ | it does | [22:19] |
| mercutio | 433 or 866? | [22:20] |
| mnathani_ | there are two? | [22:20] |
| BryceBot | That's what she said!! | [22:20] |
| mnathani_ | the plot thickens | [22:20] |
| mercutio | yeah | [22:20] |
| mnathani_ | probably the slower one
not sure though | [22:20] |
| mercutio | it's like how lots of cellphones do 60 megabit or something wireless n
so phones and cheap laptops are often 433 like my tablet is 433 my laptop is 866 | [22:20] |
| mnathani_ | enough to say its ac
but not the full 866 | [22:20] |
| mercutio | it's probably the faster one
yeah you can only really hope for half the connected rate laptops can be kind of special though often their antenna situation is far from ideal and so like if you sit at a desk with the laptop, if you sit facing the opposite direction at the desk it may give twice the speed | [22:20] |
| mnathani_ | http://www.theverge.com/2015/9/29/9411137/google-chromecast-2-announces-specs-price-release-date | [22:21] |
| BryceBot | Error fetching information for http://www.theverge.com/2015/9/29/9411137/google-chromecast-2-announces-specs-price-release-date: Not Found | [22:21] |
| mercutio | i spun around in my chhair when i was checking | [22:21] |
| mnathani_ | that has 802.11ac | [22:21] |
| mercutio | yeah chromecast is likely to be 433
15 megabytes/sec isn't bad though more is always nicer though | [22:22] |
| mnathani_ | windows file transfer
4 gig iso | [22:22] |
| mercutio | the other thing is that 5 ghz channel selection can make a difference, and often naming your 2.4 ghz and 5 ghz ssid's different names helps force 5 ghz | [22:22] |
| mnathani_ | ftp might be faster | [22:22] |
| mercutio | because even if you have -20 dbm less signal with 5 ghz it's often better. | [22:22] |
| mnathani_ | I already have 3 ssid names in my household | [22:23] |
| mercutio | just use a different one for 5 ghz and 2.4 | [22:23] |
| mnathani_ | another one for 5 ghz would make residents go nuts | [22:23] |
| mercutio | and you may want to add _optout_nomap to the end too
ok well with windows there's a 5 ghz preference thing i think too it just doesn't seem to work very well was it using 5 ghz? | [22:23] |
| mnathani_ | 3 different access points / wireless access points | [22:24] |
| mercutio | you can name different access points the same | [22:24] |
| mnathani_ | not sure about the 5 ghz | [22:24] |
| mercutio | i set the password on all of my access points to be the same | [22:24] |
| mnathani_ | then they need to match up with aes / tkip etc
wpa2 | [22:24] |
| mercutio | well it makes it easier for people to remember the password | [22:24] |
| mnathani_ | password is the same
ssids are different | [22:24] |
| mercutio | i don't think they need to match up with windows
i think the protection is pretty weak | [22:25] |
| mnathani_ | there are iphones, ipods, windows phone , several android as well | [22:25] |
| mercutio | yeah
do you have two 5 ghz routesr? ime higher frequency works better than lower but don't know what channel restriction is like there | [22:25] |
| mnathani_ | yes 2 5ghz
one is a cisco access point other is this new tplink | [22:26] |
| mercutio | yeah you allow high ones
so you can use 149 through 165 you need 80 mhz for 802.11ac | [22:27] |
| mnathani_ | third is a mikrotik which I am checking | [22:27] |
| mercutio | doesn't matter where you start really
oh you can't use low channel numbers | [22:27] |
| mnathani_ | tplink is set to auto right now | [22:28] |
| mercutio | well you can use every second one
yeh i se to manual set and i'm using 157 or such i think it was defaulting to 42 or something and going slower but if it's set to canada it shouldn't do that i'm on 153 | [22:28] |
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| mnathani_ | Acer Aspire R 13 R7-371T-59ZK Signature Edition Laptop
thats the laptop manual should say which 802.11ac it supports | [22:46] |
| I liked that the TP-Link router didnt complain when adding IP: 10.10.100.100 /16
most other routers force /24 and usually in 192.168 range | [22:54] | |
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