[00:25] *** streak has quit IRC (Quit: Bye!) [01:37] *** mnathani_ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) [01:41] *** mnathani_ has joined #arpnetworks [06:56] *** staticsafe has joined #arpnetworks [07:27] huh, the vnc stuff seems to have stopped working on my vps [07:28] mid upgrade [07:28] via an ssh tunnel [07:28] telnet: connect to address 208.79.88.89: Connection refused [07:29] when i try to connect direclty [07:29] brycec: can you confirm :D ? [07:36] up_the_irons: ^ [07:41] I can get to other vnc servers just fine. [07:59] *** dj_goku_ has joined #arpnetworks [08:01] *** meingtsil has joined #arpnetworks [08:03] *** toddf_ has joined #arpnetworks [08:09] *** dj_goku has quit IRC (*.net *.split) [08:09] *** joepie91_ has quit IRC (*.net *.split) [08:09] *** meingtsla has quit IRC (*.net *.split) [08:09] *** up_the_irons has quit IRC (*.net *.split) [08:09] *** rendrag has quit IRC (*.net *.split) [08:09] *** toddf has quit IRC (*.net *.split) [08:09] *** meingtsil is now known as meingtsla [08:11] *** joepie91_ has joined #arpnetworks [08:33] *** up_the_irons has joined #arpnetworks [08:33] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o up_the_irons [08:44] up_the_irons: halp [08:44] kvr24.arpnetworks.com's vnc seems to be not [08:56] *** mnathani2_ has joined #arpnetworks [08:57] *** mnathani_ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [09:07] That usually indicates that your kvm process has crashed [09:08] though vinagre is bombing out vnc'ing to mine [09:08] but obviously it's still up [09:08] qbit: can you at least hit the the serial server? [09:09] brycec: i can hit the vnc port on other servers, and i am on console [09:10] kvr24.arpnetworks.com isn't letting me vnc [09:10] it did, then disconnected me mid upgrade [09:10] and now i can't reconnect [09:23] odd... [09:26] Okay now that I'm back at a computer... qbit, I can hit vnc on two different VPS, but neither are on kvr24 :p [09:28] qbit: sounds like your kvm process crashed (like brycec said). Hit Boot from the Portal and then see if you can connect [09:28] I could also hit qbit's vnc port, but only after 3 tries. The first two tries, TigerVNC gave a really useless error "CConn: No useful address for host" (even though DNS is fine) [09:28] up_the_irons: see update [09:32] i am back on [09:32] thanks [09:36] cool! [10:38] *** rendrag has joined #arpnetworks [12:39] damn this new "zstd" compression is fast. [12:39] it's faster at compressing than xz is at decompressing. [12:40] with similar compression levels to gzip. [14:22] *** mnathani2_ has quit IRC () [14:22] *** mnathani_ has joined #arpnetworks [19:01] "219,904,000 108M/s in 1.9s" I do enjoy having that GbE connection :D [19:01] (on my ARP Metal box) [19:16] heh where's that from [19:17] From mirrors.arp ;) [19:17] heh [19:17] Can you guess the ISO? [19:17] openbsd [19:17] it's kind of obvious [19:17] considering the openbsd iso is about that size [19:17] :D [19:17] I was hoping you'd guess which iso specifically, but whatever you win [19:18] amd64 install58.iso [19:19] in-tuh-resting [19:19] yay [19:19] the iso says 220M in apache [19:19] but 220*1024*1024 is 230686720 [19:20] Length: 230862848 (220M) [application/x-iso9660-image] [19:20] soo... [19:21] am i wrong? [19:21] ohhh [19:21] you're getting i386 [19:21] are you using some ancient computers [19:22] hm could be, I grabbed both i386 and amd64 [19:22] ok [19:22] syou referenced the i386 one :) [19:22] I guess I did, window's already closed :p [19:22] ok so i was right before i got more specific :) [19:25] oh btw, was looking at someone's VPS on kvr24 this morning - Is that box not getting the new/improved SeaBIOS you compiled, mercutio ? [19:25] what do you mean? [19:25] i haven't pushed the cosmetic update still [19:25] if there's some pressing reason to do a seabios update it'll be ready though :) [19:25] The version string for SeaBIOS looked old and didn't show any "compiled by" string [19:26] So not even the pre-cosmetic update version. [19:26] No big deal, just curious. [19:26] (All I recall was "SeaBIOS 1.3..." but no user@buildhost or anything) [19:27] oh right [19:27] yeah there's two versions of seabios [19:27] there's the "old" hosts and the "new" hosts. [19:27] and only the new hosts have my seabios version on them. [19:27] do you mean "guest" or do you mean host machines? [19:28] host machines. [19:28] Higher numbers != "newer" is always confusing :) [19:28] so yeah kvr24 has older host OS [19:29] precise vs trusty. [19:29] but precise is still supported for lts. [19:29] I thought up_the_irons had finished all those upgrades by now [19:29] (I thought wrong, evidently) [19:29] heh [19:29] yeah there's quite a few precise hosts out there. [19:30] the precise hosts had fixes for venom. [19:30] but yeah having everything on trusty would be nice. [19:31] of course in 6 months time there'll be a new lts :) [19:58] huzzah, I spent way more time than I should have today updating my smokeping targets :D and then it only took ~5 minutes to bring up another slave instance. [19:59] *and* I'm now monitoring dns resolution time and http response time for a few hosts! (after accidentally ddos'ing one host by hammering a slow-to-load page) [19:59] brycec: have you seen ipv4 improvement? [19:59] http response time can be nice to do [19:59] this just leaves figuring out why one of the slaves stopped showing up even though I see its POSTs in the master's log... [19:59] s/ipv4/ipv6/ [19:59] mercutio: improvement relative to what? [19:59] brycec: have you seen ipv6 improvement? [19:59] grr [20:00] less loss [20:00] oh that ipv6 thing a few weeks back? [20:00] I suppose I have [20:00] cool [20:00] i should clean up my smokepings :) [20:00] I broke mine out into separate files too :) [20:00] i've been playing with linux 4.3 prereleases [20:00] it seems to improve http download tests. [20:01] (as it had reached ~1000 lines before I diddled with it today) [20:01] there's some change to congestion avoidance i think [20:02] Last 6mos of IPv6 shows a "bad time" and improvement since then https://smokeping.cobryce.com/?displaymode=n;start=2015-04-23%2019:58;end=now;target=ARP.ARPWebsite.ARPWebsite6 [20:13] Darn Teksavvy packet loss: Packets: Sent = 16, Received = 10, Lost = 6 (37% loss), [20:15] calling them simply leads to basic troubleshooting - 1.) connect PC directly to modem (disconnecting all other devices on the network) 2.) test network connectivity 3.) realize its actually the internet connection and not the router [20:27] mnathani_: is that cable? [20:28] it may b a physical problem [20:30] yes, cable [20:30] problem is intermittent - usually between 11pm and 1am [20:30] my guess would be its the BRAS as mentioned before [20:31] (HFC if you want to be technical ;) ) [20:33] yeah 11pm and 1 am is peak usage time for uhh students [20:33] do you live in a student area? :) [20:33] of course it could vary around the world [20:33] but here internet usage tends to drop off around 11 pm [20:35] anyway the usual solution is they split your cable node into two nodes. [20:35] i wouldn't be surpriesd if it's one really heavy neighbour creating the bulk of the issues :/ [20:35] there's been this tendency to start boosting cable speeds by using more channels at once. [20:36] but if there are still docsis 2 users on the network as well as docsis 3, then they can get more network bandwidth if they upgrade people to docsis 3 [20:36] and by "most of the issues" i mean using a sizable chunk to bring it to sudden congestion. [20:43] heh apparently docsis 3 supports 32 channel bonding [20:43] i think 8 is common [20:43] with the 150 or whatever megabit plans [20:48] mnathani_: wikipedia suggests that teksavvy hav bw caps, and unlimited nights [20:49] maybe people are starting large downloads late at night? [20:53] 2am - 6am is unlimited I think? [20:56] As someone who downloaded 82GB in Steam content just today, bw caps feel barbaric. [20:57] brycec: can I put you down as a reference for my devio.us application? [20:57] mnathani_: yes [20:57] cool [20:57] thanks [20:57] mainly because it's not a "reference" it's just "who's going to remember talking to you" [20:59] to rephrase that, "Prove to us you actually followed instructions and were in the IRC channel." [21:00] brycec: i like bw caps, i just think they have to be "reasonable" sizes [21:00] like would you mind a 2tb/month data cap? [21:02] there, finally submitted the devio.us application [21:03] Probably not usually, I usually only hit 1.5-1.8TB/mo [21:03] I got an advertisement / flyer in the mail for 100 GB / 30mbit connection [21:04] see that's not reasonable [21:04] my current ISP is 400 GB, and uploads dont count neither do downloads 2AM - 8 AM (possibly 6 AM) [21:04] i got a letter to "householder" for 40gb or something [21:05] oh home phone + broadband 40gb [21:05] Oh that's good that uploads don't count. 50% of my traffic are backups [21:05] adsl [21:05] byo modem [21:05] i have vdsl and use way more than 40gb and use voip [21:05] I'm still curious/tempted to drop my cable connection and just tether off my phone's unlimited data [21:05] see how "unlimited" it really is :D (LTE speeds too) [21:06] 940 Mbps / Unlimited from another provider for $150/month [21:08] w00t, devio.us account got approved [21:08] haha [21:08] bryce was watching? :) [21:09] yep ^ [21:09] hey my devio.us account isn't working [21:10] mercutio: in what way? [21:10] my key isn't logging in [21:10] mercutio: do you have an old dsa key? [21:10] maybe [21:10] did you upgrade sshd? [21:10] As part of OpenBSD, yeah [21:11] oh [21:11] damnit [21:11] * mercutio tries to guess what his password may be [21:12] "In ssh, turn off DSA by default. Add HostKeyAlgorithms to the server and PubkeyAcceptedKeyTypes to the client side so it can be turned back on." [21:12] And I have no intention of re-enabling it. [21:12] oh think i found it [21:12] it's in email [21:12] ..you never changed it from the default? Oh, Ben... [21:12] s/default/temporary [21:12] ..you never changed it from the temporary? Oh, Ben... [21:12] nope must have changed it [21:12] i did change it :) [21:12] i just can't recall it :) [21:13] Glad to hear. [21:14] glad to hear that he cant recall ? lol [21:14] * brycec was curious to know who was "userauth_pubkey: key type ssh-dss not in PubkeyAcceptedKeyTypes" and I guess I know now. [21:14] mnathani_: That he changed from the temporary password :P [21:14] mercutio: devio.us/forgotpassword [21:14] if you need it [21:14] yeh there [21:14] I promise not to shame you too hard [21:15] well it supports ecdsa keys now [21:16] heh [21:16] We've supported ecdsa and ed25519 for awhile now, probably a year or so [21:16] yeah i hardly ever login [21:17] (ecdsa since December 2013, ed25519 since April 2015) [21:17] (At least based on the dates in https://devio.us/fingerprints) [21:18] my zsh history doens't have timestamping [21:18] so still not sure [21:19] is having a subdomain for web something I need to request? [21:20] Yes [21:20] (It used to be automated, then things changed) [21:20] So if you want it, I have to do it manually. [21:20] mnathani_: is this a request? [21:21] or was it just curiosity? [21:21] curiousityh [21:21] does anyone use talk on there? [21:21] I got your message [21:21] dont know how to respond yet :-) [21:21] Some do. I have "mesg n" [21:22] just "write mercutio" [21:22] ^D to end i think [21:22] (on an empty newline) [21:25] I am stuck in mutt composing and email in body and dont know how to get out [21:25] s/and email/an email [21:25] I am stuck in mutt composing an email in body and dont know how to get out [21:25] from vim? [21:26] didnt realize it was vim [21:26] I am out now [21:48] oh how'd i miss that [21:48] ubuntu 15.10 is out [22:06] *** pyvpx has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [22:11] *** pyvpx has joined #arpnetworks [22:14] *** mhoran_ has joined #arpnetworks [22:14] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mhoran_ [22:14] *** awyeah_ has joined #arpnetworks [22:15] *** neish has joined #arpnetworks [22:15] *** milki_ has joined #arpnetworks [22:15] *** up_the_irons has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [22:15] *** ix33 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [22:15] *** mhoran has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [22:15] *** ydorg has joined #arpnetworks [22:15] *** ix33 has joined #arpnetworks [22:16] *** neish_ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [22:16] *** awyeah has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [22:16] *** tellnes has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [22:16] *** awyeah_ is now known as awyeah [22:16] *** milki has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) [22:16] *** brycec has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) [22:16] *** grody has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) [22:19] *** up_the_irons has joined #arpnetworks [22:19] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o up_the_irons [22:20] *** tellnes has joined #arpnetworks [22:20] *** brycec has joined #arpnetworks [22:45] 7c6483ddcd99eb112c060ecbe0543e86 [22:52] md5? [22:52] Should I be looking this up in a rainbow table? :P [22:53] @google 7c6483ddcd99eb112c060ecbe0543e86 [22:53] 3 total results returned for '7c6483ddcd99eb112c060ecbe0543e86', here's 3 [22:53] Vidar's Blog » Password hashing with MD5-crypt in relation to MD5 (http://www.vidarholen.net/contents/blog/?p=32) Aug 9, 2011 ... gtXxg7XlL6v1 md5sum: 7c6483ddcd99eb112c060ecbe0543e86. What's the difference in generating these hashes? Why are they different at ... [22:53] FBI Director to citizens: Let us spy on you Encryption will “lead all of ... (https://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/2jgoo5/fbi_director_to_citizens_let_us_spy_on_you/) Oct 16, 2014 ... 7c6483ddcd99eb112c060ecbe0543e86 ! But don't use md5 :p. permalink; save; parent; give gold. [–]Ninja_Fox_ 4 points5 points6 points 11 ... [22:53] Nice (http://www.lotusrealimoveis.com.br/pesquisa/listar/condominio_nome/Nice/condominio_id/7c6483ddcd99eb112c060ecbe0543e86/) Apartamento para Locação Ref.: 544. Vila Augusta - Guarulhos/SP. Ref. 544 - Ótimo e confortável apartamento de 84 m² de área construída, 2 dormitórios ... [22:53] are those exactly the same hex string? [22:53] Yes [22:55] @md5 nice [22:55] 7c6483ddcd99eb112c060ecbe0543e86 [22:55] :D [22:55] online rainbow tables ftw [22:56] yeah i thought someone would google it [22:56] i gave up trying to find a funny phrase :) [22:56] md5 is pretty weak these days [22:56] you shouldn't really use it. [22:56] well it's ok for verifying files etc. [22:56] but not for passwords [22:57] how come the timezone on devio.us is EDT? [22:57] it's east coast [22:58] should it be UTC? [22:59] mnathani_: you can set TZ environment variable to get local time [23:24] mnathani_: because the server is physically located in EDT, and was started by two guys who lived in EDT. [23:29] k [23:29] how often is the member list updated? http://devio.us/members [23:32] heh that's quite a long list [23:32] of course i search for myself [23:33] You don't have permission to access /~mercutio/ on this server. [23:33] i haven't done anything with web [23:33] guess you dont publish anything [23:33] i got server at arp like within a year [23:33] and didn't use that either [23:33] i had a server in NZ prior anyway. [23:33] dedicated. [23:33] i had a dedicated server like 14 years ago [23:33] with openbsd [23:34] it was 10 megabit ethernet at first though. [23:37] am I supposed to get 100meg quota on devio.us? [23:37] current quota: 102400 [23:37] where does it say quota? [23:38] mnathani@wolfman $ quota [23:38] Disk quotas for user mnathani (uid 6899): [23:38] i have 102400 in /var and 102400 in /home [23:39] * brycec has much more quota :p [23:39] is that 10 megs, or 100 megs? [23:39] dive by 1024 [23:39] divide [23:40] That list is updated once per decade apparently [23:40] (last modified December 25, 2010) [23:41] (I had no idea it was there, much less broken) [23:41] And yes, 100*1024=102400 [23:41] And yes, 100*1024K=102400K [23:44] how do I get vi to show "INSERT" mode when inserting? [23:49] :set verbose showmode [23:49] Or just: :set showmode [23:51] mike-burns: thanks